Once the CSA/CMS has made a calculation for child maintenance, it has discretion to stipulate the method by which payments are made, to whom, when and how much should be paid towards any arrears. Notifications of any CSA/CMS decisions relating to payments must be made in writing, and should allow the non-resident parent as well as the person with care to make representations about them.
Payments to the CSA/CMS
In the majority of cases, the CSA/CMS prefer payments to be made directly from the non-resident parent to the person with care – save for when the person with care is on either Income Support or Job Seeker’s Allowance. In this situation, payments are made using ‘the collection service.’ In other cases (i.e. where the person with care is not on benefits) the collection service can be used if one or both of the parties request it. If there are problems with payments, it is possible to request the intervention of the collection service later on.
Under the new rules for child maintenance calculations, if a non-resident parent is on benefits Jobcentre Plus may make deductions at source of flat rate payments, at the request of the CSA/CMS.
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The CSA/CMS only intervenes in cases where payments have fallen into arrears if the collections service is being used. However, it is important to note that by the time the first calculation is made there are always arrears to be paid (because the calculation isn’t made until after the date when payments are due).
When a calculation is first made, the CSA/CMS will telephone the non-resident parent and tell them how the payments should be made, including the arrears. It is during this conversation that the non-resident parent should negotiate if they feel that they are not satisfied with the proposed schedule: this may be particularly pertinent given that the CSA/CMS always request that the initial arrears are cleared by way of a lump sum. (Any voluntary payments that have been made after the effective date can be deducted from the initial arrears.) The arrears are also notified in writing. If they are not paid within seven days of the written notification, the non-resident parent could face fines and enforcement action.
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Enforcement Action
If a payment that is due directly to the person with care is missed, they must inform the CSA/CMS so that they can make enquiries as to why the payment has been missed. If a payment that is due to be paid via the agency is missed, the CSA/CMS will follow this up of its own volition. In other cases, a person with care who is on certain benefits may request an increase based on the fact that child maintenance has not been paid.
In these circumstances the CSA/CMS will telephone the non-resident parent to find out whether there is a problem (e.g. a change in circumstances.) If the non-resident parent anticipates that they may find themselves in difficulty over payments, such as an impending redundancy, they should contact the agency in good time to negotiate a reduction. There may be a suspension of arrears temporarily if the non-resident parent is ill, unemployed or incarcerated.
Deductions From Earnings
A Deduction from Earnings Order (DEO) is where payments are deducted from the non-resident parent’s earnings and paid to the CSA/CMS. Voluntary DEOs are available if the non-resident parent requests it: however if they persistently default, fail to keep to arrears arrangements and do not respond to enquiries, a DEO may be imposed. However it is possible to appeal a DEO to a magistrates’ court within 28 days of its imposition, either on the basis that it is defective or that the payments being made to the non-resident parent do not qualify as ‘earnings.’
If a DEO is inappropriate for whatever reason the CSA/CMS can apply to the magistrates court for a liability order. The CSA/CMS has to provide the non-resident parent with 7 days written notice of their intention to apply for this order. Once granted, the CSA can arrange for a county court to enter the order into its register like a judgment debt. This means that the CSA/CMS can pursue a charging order against land, property or other assets, a third party debt order against bank accounts or debts owed to the non-resident parent by a third party.
Disqualification From Driving and Imprisonment
In extreme circumstances, the CSA/CMS may take action to disqualify a non-resident parent from driving and can fix a term of imprisonment (up to six weeks) that is usually postponed to enable regular payments to be made.
I told the CMS all this. Is there anything I can do?
Ps I earn £440 a week and they want £657 how is this possible
They were taken into care in their early teens due to their mothers neglect, but still i owe her this money.
I refused to pay the money, now i have an attachment to earnings of 400 pounds per month.
Its destroyed my life and my familys... im on the verge of suicide
My daughter is now 27. What, if anything can I do? I never had a problem paying for my daughter but I can bet this money certainly wont be going to her !
I was told due to missadinistraion back in 2000 a deferred debt had been authorized and providing I kept up with agreed payments re introducing the deferred debt will not be re added.
In 2001 I got a letter stating my arrears had been paid and received a rebate for one over payment.
Fast forward to 2019 when CMS took over my arreas I have found this has been re introduced ( deferred debt)
Can anyone advise on this as I'm at a total loss
Things started to go good with seeing my daughter which is the love of my life and we she was born I promised I’d protect her.. as all of ye people would do for your own children..
I’ve moved down south and have being here for the past 5 years now and 3 years ago I meet my soulmate and a lady who has being my rock through hard times and dark days..
It all happened when I started dating and now long in to my new relationship I received a letter in the post by the scum CMS demanding I’d pay more for my daughter as 70 pound a week was not good enough anymore!! I must also add that I have my daughter every other weekend for overnight stays which I travel 640 miles round trip which is not cheap on fuel either I must add.!! They then started to look for 126 pound a week and my cost was going to be around 850 a month just t to see my daughter!! I came home from work 1 night and I just broke down on front of my partner.. upon my partner seeing me in such a state she took to the laptop and started to write a email to our local MP. I can’t believe with what he did for me. Within 2 weeks my payments that had started at 126 pound a week went to 50.20.. and it was only a manager I would deal with as the rest that works there are just idiots... they don’t know what to do.. it has being great until Now!!
Fast forward and 2019 has been a great start to the year when I tied the knot with my soul mate in February, Easter we found out we are expecting our baby due at Christmas and recently bought a house..
when my annual review for the new payments came in June it stated that I was pay 62.18 per week which I’ve nothing against. I gave the cms a call to say I was happy with there review and let’s keep going with payments.. since then my ex has called them up told them I’ve missed payments and then I get a email from her telling me in 3 days time there going to give me a call as there changing to collect and pay plus I’ve to pay 20% on top for there fees.. I’ve been all last week talking to different people that clearly don’t what there doing getting different answers from every single person. I then requested a call back from a manager which they say it’s 24 hours before they’ll call you I’m still waiting for the call since last Monday.. They asked me to upload my documents to this portal that they use and I’ve being trying to this for 4 days!! Eventually when I got logged in I started to upload my documents and evidence they need to be told I can only upload 5 documents a day?????????? I’ve got about 40 documents to upload!! God give me strength..
I can honestly see why people have mental issues and it’s down to the CMS that causing men to have a meltdown so we need to stand together and tell them go a jump with there fines and do there job correctly.. the only reason my ex has done this is because her pay
My case was closed nearly 20 years ago when my son left school. I have still helped him since that time.
After all this time I thought that this was all behind me, but I have recently received a letter totally out of the blue stating that they want £12,000 in unpaid arrears, no option to ask how this has come about, just pay now, followed more recently by threats of a court order.
I have written asking for a meeting as I still have proof of all the payments made, bank statements, cheque stubs etc. I owe nothing and still don't know why they have ever been involved, but they responded with threats of a court order.
It seems that I am to be treated as a criminal and am now being threatened with court action to take the money they have decided I owe directly from my bank account. This is theft, the taking of something which is not yours,but because it is a Government department it must be right.
I never recovered from the breakdown, and now find myself panicking when faced once again with the same faceless bureaucratic ineptitude that nearly drove me to suicide all those years ago. Fortunately a have good partner these days, and with her help I hope to prove that I am an innocent party and just want to be left alone.
I was wondering as I paid my ex directly even though she went through CSA and they worked out how much I should pay her a week I spoke to CSA because I'm struggling to pay and they said because I pay it directly into her bank that is not enforceable I could stop paying and it would take up to 2 months for them to put me on a different scheme only if my ex reported it to them. Is this true and would I have to pay arrears as they are saying it's not enforceable??
Thanjs
declare this to csa at the the time 20 years ago Im sorry that coming home from work one evening i caught your mother in bed with another women of this i could never forgive & along with the other discretions i eventualy left
But One thing i will never be sorry for is you my son love your farther
I accept there is fathers who do not support their children and I agree this is unacceptable.
However my parents ex wife has used the system to for her own financial gain......
It started with a realisation that she could get more money going to the CSM than through the court order that was in place, she the realised if she manipulated her daughter not to stay with her Dad two nights a week that would also increase the payment.
The CSM were not interested in anything he had to say they just took her word for it. He just had to accept it and get over the emotional distress it caused him.
Move forward 3 years and his daughter has decided to leave college and take up an apprenticeship working 40hrs per week and getting paid......are they interested that she is no longer entitled to Child Maintenance the answer is no it’s all dependant on her mother telling the child benefit agency that’s circumstances have changed who the CMS will then contact to clarify as and when and she isn’t rushing to do that and risk missing out on hundreds of pounds a month. The only advice the child benefit office offered was report her for fraud!
All the dealings he has had with the CMS has been a complete and utter waste of time. He doesn’t want to shirk his responsibility but wants a fair playing ground!
One minute I have arrears and they agree £250 per month, 3 weeks later they want £486 per month, then a month later they want £867 a month. Come on... My salary is only a fraction above that a month and now they write to me wanting £1200 a month. Of course this is a joke. Women have no need to complain if they knew what was happening to guys also! This CMS is a complete joke, incompetent, liars, extortionists and fraudsters and BOTH parents are losers. Women who seek CMS do you think they are there to help you? When will you learn?
You didnt need CMS to get married or jump in bed to make a child did you? So when it all goes pear shaped why do you call on a third party gov service? Everyone is responsible for their own actions so why run to gov for help when it all goes wrong? British benefits culture strikes again!!!
I received a letter regarding unpaid child maintenance for my daughter who is now 28 years old. Her father never laid a penny to me and CSA never chased it up. I was told about the debt to me and asked if I wanted to write it off, I said no and sent them all the information on her father I could fine, address, phone number, business address etc only to be told some 3 days later they had written if off. How can that be, they have not even tried to get it for me. Can I demand they send me correspondence between them and her father and take it to court myself and perhaps even the CSA as they have failed me. Feeling so annoyed right now, as he has recently come into her life, only because she tracked him down and told her siblings about herself.
He refuses to cooperate with CMS and continues to ignore their calls and their letters. His first payment (including arrears) should be made this month but I'm not holding my breath.
I dont get how so many letters can have different figures on them all the time. When I call CMS I get different advice all the time...how do CMS expect us to understand the letters when they dont themselves?!
These so called parents cant get away with it!
Thanks
Also maybe if they took 20% from the payer and 20% from the receiver people would stop using them as a god damn weapon/ threat!!
For the lady who mentioned her disabled son.. I also have a disabled son and have arrears of over £9500 owing to me. The deductions of order didn't work as the employer was not cooperative. I was on the phone to them today asking where do we go from here, what happens now. They are now going to take out legal enforcement action and it's going to court.
Now, I was told this last year and when he got the letter he made one payment and they dropped the case as he'd shown willingness to cooperate and think that was last payment he made so here we are again nearly a year later and when he gets his letter, he will probably do the same again and cheat the system. If it does go ahead a legal representative will represent me provided by CMS and they will write to me so I'm to expect a letter any day now and get this... I have to write a justification on why I should receive part of the money! £2705.14 of that arrears was when it was CSA, they are now trying to write that off as old debt and I have to justify why I should get it.
Well I think I should get it on principal but don't think they'll see that as a justifiable reason.
Was wondering if saying that because I am a full time carer to my disabled son, it limits me to what I can work because of my role as carer therefore I have a very low paid part time job.
If I put his neglect of duty as affected the welfare of the children I'm worried they'll send Social services round
Last year I made a Subject Access Request for my CSA records after being told on the phone that they don't keep those old records. Even after a reminder I still didn't receive the information I requested.
Normally when you receive a request for money from anywhere else they at least present you with a breakdown of the amounts. Is it too much that we ask for proof before handing over our money? I'm not angry at my ex over this. She is what she is and I know there will be a special place in hell for her. No, my anger and amazement is reserved for the Government Agency. I haven't hidden for 20 years. I'm still living in the same house. How does it take that long to realise someone owes money? Or supposedly does.
He was distraught on receiving this letter regarding a debt that did not exist and advising that it had been written off. This is really very insulting and just another example of incompetence on the part of the CSA. We are doing a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act for all the information the CSA hold regarding his account with them although I suspect the information will not be made available.
15 years down the line and l received a letter Christmas Eve morning saying l owe £26000 in arrears...WTF.
New Year’s Eve morning l get a phone call asking how l would like to pay....
Who the hell are these people..!!!
Even after 15 years the s**t never stops from my daughters mother who l might add is now alcoholic and does nothing but smoke wacky backy all day...
They can send me behind bars as lm now at the point were l have switched of....bring what ever on as lm ready for a fight....£26000 your off your head...
The system is driven to this conclusion as it is the most lucrative for the recipient. Europe works on a presumption of 50:50 care unless there is a valid reason not to. Seems to be one part of European Law we haven’t adopted!!
Family court and maintenance are both archaic and unbalanced. I raised this with my MP and got several woolly responses but nothing that justified the current imbalances
Terrible system and encourages child abuse, by promoting RP's to limit and deny children access to the NRP.
Hopefully this will be ammended in line with Sir Michael Mcfarlane review.
Any help would be appreciated
CMS making up totally incorrect arrears amounts and being impossible to talk to.
Mikey your right we all need to come together and end the CMS, they do not help in any way and are liars.
I have always payed CSA for my eldest until I was made redundant. CSA are saying that as they did not know I was unemployed (which they did), I owe nearly £1000 in arrears. How is this even legal. I don't have that sort of cash and more to the point I do not owe it. They say they will hold it forever and take it from my pension if needed. Its disgraceful. Simply due to a lack of communication, I am stung with a huge bill that I wouldn't owe if the communication was there.
I'm lost as to where I go from here.
I was not in arrears with payments till the change over now I'm being peanaliised for there mistake
i have recently recieved an arrears demand letter from the csa for £4400.
i am living in thailand and am trying to contact them to discuss what this is about. i cannot ring them and wish to do via email. My x has now admitted that she has recieved similar letters over the years but has ignored them.
Any advise please?
What a horrible person you are. Do you work?
Fast forward to September 2017 and he is contacted by the CMS who say he owes £30k in arrears!! They have not explained how that figure is calculated. Is it based on his assumed income or is it a standard amount or what? They never answer any questions he puts to them in writing or by phone and their favourite phrase is' we are not required to tell you'.
He works on a farm, gets £13ph gross and just about makes ends meet over a 12 month period. He is 53, rents a flat, has no pension or investments or savings of any kind.
He had to get his MP to intervene to get a statement of account from the CMS as they said they were not required to provide it to my brother when he asked them.
IN June this year he provided bank statements and proof of basic outgoings and agreed a £20 per week payment as he literally has no more spare and now the CMS have deducted £850 from his bank account because they decided it was 'surplus'. He has told them in writing and by phone that it is not surplus or savings but is money from the hours he worked harvesting potatoes which is needed to pay his winter bills when there is less farm work available, but they do not listen and do not care.
He is heading for a breakdown but still they do not care. He worked 505 hours in the last 8 weeks to bring in the money he needs for the next few months. 505 hours!
Anyone got any advice for me as I am so worried about him.
Thankyou. x
However, 2018 - I've been told that I owe nearly £5000 in maintenance payments to her mother as the CMS has calculated arrears. I've been down the local MP route and had numerous follow ups breaking down every payment I made for my daughter in the 13 years I had to.
Anyway, to cut a long story short, I'm having to pay £187pcm for this 'debt' calculated as arrears despite my numerous attempts to have this wiped out or at least reduced.
The CMS are saying that this money was still owed but in 2006, my argument is well why wasn't it asked for then?
I did not expect to haunted by this again after years and years or misery through the CSA which ultimately cost me another marriage where I had more children.
I have some paperwork dating back which I have submitted to my MP, to the CSA and to the CMS where it was a debt around £2,900 is still payable.
I was never asked for this until recently but now the CMS have taken over, the figure is now £4,900.
I don't know where to start to get through this again as I'm going around in circles with the CMS who slapped a DEO on me without knowledge.
This is so difficult, after so many years of paying out then being clear of payments as your children grow up and I've since become a grandfather twice over to my daughters children, to be paying maintenance to her mother now, 12 years on I just so unfair and unjust. It's not as though my daughter gets that money!!
The ex was contacted and said thanks very much instead of just moving on.
Anyone help me please?
regards
Rob
I have dealt with them since 2009 when the changed from CSA to CMS they informed my husband he had arrears where from they couldn't tell us just pay it or we will take it anyway. We contested this and put an official complaint in sent evidence to prove we had paid since 2009 years nothing.
They switch him to attachment of earnings with charges! Again we contested this won the case and was referred back to direct pay.
We have been paying the arrears even though we don't owe them (request the arrears to be means tested they must do this) the debt has now doubled this year!!! How? No one knows! All we get is rude ladies favouring mom everytime and not prepared to listen they just tut and say pay it! This mentality of mom.is always right must stop. We paid thousands for a court order they always lose! It seems dad's that paying are bullied into paying more and they are making money from you!
The harder you work the more you lost to your ex. I have complained to the ICE as we have had enough. We are paying for Christmas birthdays and holidays twice over!
is this the case? they also say if he maintains this for 6 months he would be entitled to switch to Direct Pay, this is a DV case, is he really allowed to keep repeating this cycle? The arrears are nearly 4K, how can we get CMA to take action?
My husband has his own limited company and have always paid the maintenance the CMS has calculated for the three children he has with his ex. A few days ago, he got a letter from CMS saying they have recalculated his earnings (on the back of a request from his ex) and they are now saying he has to pay a substantial amount more. They are also saying they are back dating this payment to 2016. Can CMS do this, when they have never told him they were reassessing the case. Also the figure they have used for his initial payments were based on figures they took straight from the HRMC. Now they are saying they will include to full company account and not just the salary he was paid. Can they do that? Also, if they have done their own miscalculations, can they now go back years and tell someone to pay? It seems highly unfair that he should be penalised for something he has never done wrong. Further to this, the new weekly payment does not take into consideration his living expenses, food, rent, household bills and he will not be able to pay them. Can CMS do that as it would mean he can’t afford to provide a roof over the head for his children when he has them?
Only earlier this year did he manage to stop a claim from his ex where she had told CMS that he had not paid maintenance for a year, even though he had (private arrangement between them). He had to provide bank statements and even so, CMS said that wasn’t enough and they then asked the mother to show statements as well. When she didn’t, they suspended the case saying they can’t close it as the mother has to do it. So it’s clear she is lying to the CMS she is still the one they look out for. She even lies to them with regards to how often he has the children which is roughly half the year and tells CMS he has them one night a year. Again, they will not listen to my husband and just take the word of the mother into consideration. I am absolute chocked and disgusted with how they treat fathers and how they think this is acceptable. Is it anything that can be done about it?
If I was 10 weeks behind at work I'll be sacked
You lot csa are a joke you should all sacked ??????
The claim started from the 10th September but I have continued to pay the previous agreed amount weekly. Should I continue to pay or should I stop until they have decided on the amount? I don't want to stop paying as it could leave her short, will CMS take these pavements off the amount when it has been decided?
Early this year the case was transferred to CMS. I requested for paternity test having been previously denied illegally by the CSA. I was told to hold off payment until the outcome of the test. 3 months later, I was told the outcome was positive. The CMS then insisted I had to pay 3 months arrears. I offered to pay £80 a month extra plus current monthly payments. The CMS ignored my arrangement and proceeded to DOE. I had to take a bank loan/overdraft to clear the arrears, this was done before the DOE started. The CMS proceeded with DOE, when I had already proven to it that those payment had been made. I was told by CMS staff that the only way I could stop the DEO is to stop working, which I am now being forced into. I have other children that CMS is putting into undue hardship. I have written and appeal to CMS without any answers.
I will like to know:
Does the CMS have regards for fundamental human right and the rule of law or is it above the law; and therefore lawless?
Does the CMS have the right to forcefully enforce DOE on payment that have been already been made and agreed?
Is CMs enforcing DOE illegally in order to force people to pay charges?
Is CMS trying to alienate absent parent from their children, rather than than encouraging cohesion and cooperation?
Are staff of CMS deliberately misbehaving, and acting beyond the law and punishing people by putting them through undue hardships. Thereby forcing vulnerable people in our society to also take matters into their own hands?
Why are people less confident in the court systems which should have powers to check this illegalities by CMS?
Is the CMS fit for purpose, or is it now suffering from the same fatal flaws of the CSA?
Am I entitled to any back payment
This ex partner is affluent and also has a new partner living with her and I have no idea how there income doesn't come into when I hear horror stories of men's new partners income coming into the equation , I had a horrendous time getting my access now its getting me again, I have never missed payments and when I was off work injured I git into credit but never received this, I thought it was up to me to notify of changes and there are none so why does it have to change at all, Also if I don't get on top of this as I am waiting for correspondence from then I could be fined on top of that and where does that money come from, all this is due to complete incompetence of a department that goes out of its way to ruin lives financially which inevitably brings the stress and mental problems and probably destroys new family's, The time it will take to sort this out due to their incompetence will end up in me being owing thousands and I can't pay it
My issue/query is as follows:
My cms Payments were increased to an amount which made it difficult to live because I had earned more for one year than previous years. As a result of my temporary increase in earning my payment amount went from 150 to 300 (and rightly so.) Here I will like to state that in nearly 8 years I have not missed one Payment or complained about the amount owed.
The problem arouse when I realised that I was paying a higher rate based on the previous year and needed a years proof of earnings before the amount could be re-calculated. However, I am unable to reduce my hours now because of my higher rate (this is similar to a caste system) back In March last year I became depressed as resul developed insomnia followed by a nearly fatal attack of pneumonia and sepsis and the realisation that I will have to keep working same extra hours every month or face legal action if I reduce the amount myself has been causing my a great deal of anxiety resulting in panic attacks and a frequent low mood.
Now, I very seriously considering contacting the CMS and telling them I will be reducing my monthly payments with the intention of continuing to pay for longer (If I did not feel there was a need to take this risk I would not be considering it but I have to consider my health and new baby because I need to be of sound mind to support a child) I understand this is a difficult situation and I sincerely hope you will not judge me for considering taking this action.
My question is: Will it be possible to reduce my payment back to their original amount and continue paying in arrears but for a longer period (because I wish to pay the full estimated total)?
I had no choice but to use csa up to now I have had 2 payments from her. How ever it's never been on the date she should pay. Sooner they put her on collect and pay the better.
So it's not just men who avoid paying but mothers too.
My ex husband is not working so that he doesn't have to pay maintanance towards my two boys, therefore the cms have sent me confirmation that he has Nil to pay.
But he and his wife live in a 4 bedroom house with a pool (owned by his brother in law) and my ex husband owns a property which is currently on the market and has inherited another property which is currently on the market. Can the CMS collect the arrears he owes (£900) from the equity from the sale of these properties? ( although he has not been forthcoming with the ownership of these properties and any amounts of savings/inheritence he has)
The CMS does work for children who has a parent that is wealthy but legally pretends to have a small income. The CMS won’t challenge them either, for to do that I guess they would have to challenge affluent government officials too!
The law should be changed and it should allow the child to challenge the non paying parent!
As its unlikely that my children will receive regular payments, I would like to have the 10k that he already owes to be put in a trust account for the children to use at a later date. I do not want money for myself, as I work and have always managed to provide for the children. Ultimately, it is the children who are loosing out.
Would the CMS be able to action this if the debt is registered?
Is it worth me getting a solicitor my self? Thank you
I split from my ex five years ago after 15 years together. We have two children. After believing sob stories of poverty I found out he was earning between 40-60k. I was actually living in poverty. Struggling to feed and clothe my children. Borrowing money & embarrassingly accepting hand outs from friends ...putting up with abuse from his new partner, and him, as a result of him not having contact with our disabled son, which was down to an incident in which he neglected and terrified our child. Last year in may when I finally had enough I called cms. As it stands he owes back dated for 1 year around 6k. Additionally he is supposed to pay regular payments. Legal proceedings were to begin by CMS and so he decided that he would start making small payments with a degree of regularity into my account directly after cms had given him my details in the very beginning.
I have no way of stopping those payments. We do not have any contact. He is not allowed to see our son. My daughter began work end of last year and so he no longer has to pay for her ...yet still I have seen nothing of the money we are owed? He has paid something like £500 in total ...I believe knowingly doing so to prevent legal action. But now he's stopped again its been three weeks and no money. I'm married now with a small child and a baby on the way. My husband and I are not wanting to rip anyone off but we are fed up of making up the deficit for a man who earns a small fortune in comparison who's now wife is in regular receipt of cm for her own child ...
Its frustrating. We are doing all the hard work making all the right choices by all the children and financially suffering. While they play games trying to dodge the cms. When will it end? I fear my life of poverty will continue and by the time my sons 18 he will walk away scot free ... Off to book another 5* holiday while we worry about mortgage repayments and school equipment ..
My ex andi are divorced and my 15 year old son lives with his dad and his new partner, I live with my partner his children and our 2 year old daughter.
I do not work I am a stay at him mum and look after the house, I go and pick my son up every other weekend and spend the Saturday with him, I take him out to the cinema, the beach, we take him out for meals and he has what he wants when he is with us but my ex is asking for money ?? I understand that he needs things but I do not work and do not have an income yet my ex’s new partner ( of a year) has said she expects my partner to give over money for my son, I have been verbally abused over text and threatened with violence over voice mail by her, I have been told I am a useless mother and don’t deserve children all because I don’t pay them any money yet the csa say I don’t have to because I have no income myself ??
My ex is continuing the ignore the payment requests from the csa , each month I receive a letter saying they did not receive the payment to pass on to my 2 children ! I requested direct pay be changed as he didn’t stick to that either !
Called csa today who said even if it went to court it doesn’t mean he has to pay anything ?
He does agency work but has registered himself as a made up ltd company !
I’m at my wits end and don’t know where to turn , please can you help ?
I have never had problems receiving any CSA payments until October last year. There was a DEO in place. When I failed to receive any payments I contacted my Ex who said that payments were still being deducted from his earnings. I rang CSA with this information and they tried to make contact with the employer a number of times and were just fobbed off with excuses like the account was on holiday. They then stopped answering calls from the CSA. This has gone on for months. I have now found out that the Company my Ex works for now has a new owner. Where do I stand? The CSA have now got their investigation team on the case, will I ever see this money again? Who's at fault? Is it theft? Is it worth getting my own solicitor involved? Any help would be great.
Is this something the CMS can do, stop the paying parent paying without notifying the receiving parent?
This can’t be the case, can it?
We do know the child is my partners responsibility has she is not treated any different nor is she neglected in any way. My question is can we tell the ex that we will pay a certain amount per month that is still a great amount. My issue is the ex is funding her lavish lifestyle on the money her child should be receiving.
Thanks
Owed over 20k in child maintenance it’s apparently with enforcement but it’s already been down this route and I have a charging order in place my child is only 11 & I’ve not received a penny
Surly the fact this was deceitful and going back on the decision made how and why should a man pay
Now recived a letter from CMS who claim I owe £1,800 so in December I phoned the old CSA who said I can clearly see you had over paid not to worry about it they will just close your case.
So ring the new CMS they say they don’t care what the old csa say you owe it, I sent them my bank statements to show I paid and the letter to say Iv over paid but they said that is not proof &that I have to prove Iv paid it (I have no idea how).
They refuse to let me speak with a manager, and I am not allowed to put in a complaint as I don’t have proof my case was closed.
Clearly in the leaflet they sent it says you can request a break down of payments and dates but once again they say I have to show them not them prove to me I owe the money.
How on earth can I do this, it was 7years ago.
They also said the were going to put attachment of payment on my wages to pay £38 per week but once again they haven’t even asked what I earn or can afford.
It is tearing me apart I have no where to turn please help.
He has stated that if legally challenged by the CSA then he will act accordingly and not make any payments to me directly .
I know this man and he is a lier and will be trying to trick me . He is planning on moving away , I will then have no contact details for him . He is also self employed .
What can I do regarding help for the items I need to get before the baby is born ? How long will it take for a claim ?
CMS also got my net weekly payment figure incorrect which is what I’ve been fighting to get rectified. My MP has intervened but doesn’t help much .What do I do?
I have received a letter from the CMS (new set up), telling me my current DEO will be terminated December 2017
I have contacted the CMS helpline and have been told all of the options
Given I have NO communication with my kids absent father, I can’t even contemplate an arrangement payment plan without the intervention of the CMS service - in order to contact my ex (father of my kids)
£20 admin aside, I have been told my current DEO will become void and the closest option I have to my current set up, will be for myself to agree (and consent from absent ex), to what is known as a part DEO- which means half of the maintenance payments is collected by CMS as a DEO, and the other half of maintenance will be the responsibility of the absent ex to pay me via cash/BAC payment- and if the absent ex defaults, then, and only then will they make it a 100% DEO
How can this be???
I waited 3 years battling for a DEO, and here I am years later back to square one
Surely a DEO is valid irrespective of what organisation (restructuring of service), has taken over the payment set up?!
CMS response was to ‘try talk to my ex’, aherm, 8 years of no contact due to his violent behaviour..... not an option!
I am so frustrated by all of this, as doesn’t the ‘system’ realise, it is the children who suffer - the absent parent has an obligation to pay for their children, yet I am made to feel like I should be sitting cup in hand, thankful of the scatters of breadcrumbs
And to be told their will be a ‘gap’ in payments whilst new arrangement is set up
I asked roughly how long will that take?
CMS replies ‘no comment’
Please can you enlighten me as to why a current DEO is disregarded under the CMS, and o have to start the DEO process all over again
Thank you
I think there should be a standard amount of monthly maintenance due from the non resident parent so the child is adequately provided for. He has no contact with him ( his choice) but why should he get away with not paying anything or very little since birth.
I have been trying for months to get written information about when my payments would have gone down as she left in September and I was still paying the full amount in March,
I now pay more for my son than I did for both, it can’t be right, I have asked for paper work to support this and have had nothing
Since they have a shared parenting arrangement, and they are both technically resident parents, does that mean he can't claim and also, is someone allowed to claim just because they are not working, when it is evident however long ago it was, that he was the main earner but has simply shirked his responsibilities.
The Child Support Agency are at fault for not carrying this out and should be responsible for paying people what is owed!
A lot of people are owed a lot of money and this should not be written off!
During that period I always kept the CSA fully informed of any information I had. I feel they are at fault for not collecting this money through whatever powers they have and it should not be written off.
Has anyone else come across this problem and know what I can do?
Child maintenance say payment depends on Child Benefit. If it’s being paid they expect us to. Involved MP about to take complaint further. Husband’s ex wife has broken the law-she should have reported non attendance at college straight away instead of claiming benefit fraudulently.
What can we do to get child maintenance/child benefit to check his attendance at college.
Thanks.
They do it out of hatred and spite which you feel shows up in the child later on life ( You read the news about a crime and then you read, there was no father figure in the house OOOH)
My story:
Me and the ex-wife divorced in 2003, my son was three at the time, at 1st she would let me see him, I worked funny shift hours so it difficult sometimes. She then decided, I would not be allowed to see him anymore. CSA came next, £230 a month I started to pay, never missed a payment, I kept on paying having no knowledge of my son's well being or whereabouts. 11 years later, Message out of the blue on Facebook, he wants to meet me (his 14 now) we met in Mcdonalds, total strangers now, I am 42, his 14, we do not know one another, he was a child when we last met, What do I tell him? I tell him what I do for a living and we find common ground (We support Man Utd)
Thanks to my ex-wife, me and my son become strangers, he was too young to understand and I was dumb enough to let her get away with it but funny how life has a way of finding a way around narrow-mindness.
Sadly 2014 was the last time we met and havent since, he is not interested, I offered him to come round, spend time with me and his half-brother.
Maybe one day he will, my door is always open.
His 18 now and I paid £72, 980 to the CSA in the 15 years and only saw my son once.
Tell me did I get value for me.
PS: The Ex been divorced four times since 2003 and is only 40 years old (2017)
Peace!
Has anyone else been through multiple DOE orders? if so, How many did it take till the took it to the next step? I know hes also had a 20K payment in the last 3 months too so hes not short on money to help pay for his kids.
Also if anyone has taken it upon themselves to go through the courts to sort it out, how much did it cost?
NB there is a court order in place for no contact because Father is a schedule one offender with two counts of assault plus six civil judgments against him in a family court - all against his daughter whom he scolded when he was four weeks old.
Regards
My partner has been regularly paying child support to his ex for the last six months direct to her. There was a dispute at the very beginning of 200 pounds as the ex hadn't informed my partner that she would be contacting child maintenance and as such he continued to pay for after school and after care activities which amounted to more than 200. He informed child maintenance and sent them proof to show he had paid the amount and if he had know that she had submitted an application then he would not have paid it- she didn't tell him. Yesterday he received a DEO to take the amount and an extra 200 pounds a month. We called sat to find that he has to wait until Monday to talk to his case worker. We cannot afford the extra 200 and we are unsure why they have gone for a DE order when we have been paying the other parent. Can someone help us with why and what to do next? We have written a letter to the courts as suggested to dispute this. We did not receive any notification to say that they would be doing this until we received the letter to say it was happening
Long story short I've found out the debt that was supposed to be coming off never happened and the £20 a month was CSA but it was listed as £20 debt on my wage. I should have been paying £30 a week about £130 a month or so. this has gone on for 10 years despite CSA never contacting me in that time.
The only time they wrote to me was this year to say CMS was taking over soon. I've just carried on all these years thinking I was paying the right amounts and left it.
Not sure what to do at this point I've found out it's wrong but haven't contact CSA yet not sure if I should leave it to transfer to CMS and wait for them to get in contact?
If they take 40% of my wage it will cripple my family I won't be able to buy food, I'll just have enough to cover rent, council tax and possibly the gas and electric bill. my wife is out of work at the min.
we can't get tax credits because they overpaid us this year by 6k and when she lost her job last year it put us 25k in debt I'm paying that off at the min but if they take 40% I wont have the money to pay them at all.
IS there any help I can get or someone to speak to that might be able to advise what I should do in this situation.
Yet pays nothing towards his daughter, I can't physically prove he works as he's a builder, plumber, kitchen fitter ect so works in a different location daily. Would csa be able to help with this? As "officially" he doesn't work and hasn't done for years, he has money from customers go to his mums bank account and his outgoings the same way...
Anyone knows if the CSA can be sued for wrongly calculating arrears I supposedly have to pay. I've started paying the arrears but all attempts to get them to review their own calculations has been met with futility. Their calculation is wrong and anyone can see that. This is extremely frustrating and time wasting as I have to keep a job and UNI studies.
Any advice will be most appreciated.
My case moved from the CSA as soon as the CMO was set up. My ex has continually evaded payments, gets caught up with and pays via an enforced DEO for a few months then changes jobs and drops off the radar again for months on end. He had nearly £10k of arrears. Yet we are continually having to restart the process every time he evades payment. How long will this continue? Is there actually any enforcement for absent parents who continually play the system? I know for a fact that my ex moves between two employers who delay as long as possible the DEO. also, what happens to those arrears once my son leaves school/university? My son has SEN and needs costly additional support.
Thanks Verity
I did try to set up an agreement with my ex last year to do it not via csa which she refused.
"Hi ya, my wife is due csa payments from her ex hubbie, the case has been backwards and forwards to court where a suspended sentence was put in place. The ex was left owing around £3700 arears at the court case, he was ordered to pay arears plus his weekly payment. Upon my self and my wife checking back and roughly working out the arears and the current payments we reckon he still owes around £2700, we contacted the csa and they have told us this is not owed to my wife but to the secretary of state, we do not understand why as we have not received the monies, can any one help, cheers "
The money is taken out of my wages before I get it which I had no problem with.
Csa work out how much I should pay, again totally fine with it.
But then afew years down the line a recieve a letter from csa saying they made an error with the calculation of payment and that I've under paid and now owe just under 3000 quid and now CMS are now saying they want it paying.
Now I'm all for paying for my children as it's my responsibility for them and have been paying my ex through direct debit so we didn't have to go through csa.
I just see why I should have to pay for there errors.
I'm not on a great wage to start with and everything was fine until CMS got involved.
Do I have any rights regarding now being in debt thanks to CSA?
I want to make my point clear that I will never shy away as a parent from my responsibilities to ensure I financially support my children however the way the CMS calculate their payments currently is nothing but criminal in my eyes. I pay my maintenance then have to pay again to collect , feed , entertain etc my children on the odd hours days i get to see them so I pay twice ? The whole thing needs scrapping and making fair for all so the children benefit and paying parents are all treated exactly the same regardless of salary etc.....
Why did you censor my post? Seriously, because I only told users how to fight against poor decisions.
Information of this fact has gone out to him and l guess he will just lie and state that his weekly income is £7 week even though he is in employment and earning in excess of £30,000. This l think is so unfair and l was informed that CMS asses cases on HMRC information.
When enforcement doesn't work?
My EX would not pay and when using the CSA a deduction of earnings order was made and collected for 6mths, he then gave up this job and went self employed and would not confirm his earnings, this has since been transferred over to CMS and in the same boat! they have confirmed the arrears have been transferred over but are chasing for the flat rate as he is making no contact - what i would like to know is if the CMS managed to get his driving licence taken away or imprison him will this process then stop as this will not be a deterrent for him? will they keep taking the driving licence away? i am thinking the only way i will ever get any money is in years time when he will inherits property..... will the case lay dorment and can be reopened many years down the line when his circumstances (what can be proved) have changed?????
Thankyou :)
How can I provide proof of income to be ignored stating HMRC they added arrears of which I had none to date. Now they have sent an arrears collection with £600 pounds even though given that the increase is correct of an additional £60 a month for 3 months equates to £180. My wages did not increase by 25% so how can i Show that my earnings have dropped by 25% plus the £60 a month include a month in arrears that I've proved she has received on time every Month. I'm at the point of packing my bags and taking my skills abroad rather the be bullied by by a corrupt illegal down right infringement of my human rights. Considering my Ex has also now stopped me seeing my beloved daughter. No wonder paying father take to self employment fight an unfair injust system the same way. Its just a shame that it's always the children that lose out.
We live together and have 3 children together
I paid maintenance up to Aug 2016 when I stopped working for health reasons.
My parents kept me and I have not claimed any benefits. I am working voluntary and still not able to do paid employment yet.
I have phoned the maintenance people, I have wrote to them yet they are still hounding me for 118 a week!!!! what can I do next. I'm in despair. they are claiming I owe around 750 in arrears. But they cannot tell me from when? I have checked bank statements and I cannot see from where either. Can someone please help me sort this situation I don't know where to go next no one is listening to me.
I have a case set up with CMS but feel I'm been lead on a wild goose chase. I originally had a case with CSA but my payments stopped in 2014. I received a letter from the CSA in April 2015 to inform me there was arrears of over £500 and that the CMS would be dealing with this. I have been ringing CMS for updates and have been told a lot of different reasons why I haven't received any payments I have had one person trying to argue with me saying I have had payments but when I said I would send my bank statements to prove I haven't had anything he put me on hold to look into it when he came back he told me they hadn't sent it to me yet, another told me they couldn't find my ex and now they are saying his employers have refused a deduction from earnings order. Today I have spoke to someone and they are saying they are still looking into the employer as to why they wont send the money he then asked about my direct pay case for maintenance payments if I had received these (which I haven't) and said this would be moved over to a collect and pay (which it should have been already since the last call I had with them). I really do feel I am been lead on a goose chase and they don't care it has been such a hard time and he is getting away with not paying for his children.
I spoke with the CSA in advance of these changes coming into force to explore my position further. I had wanted them to collect the monies on my behalf. They were due to respond to me, but failed to do so.
I have sought to reclaim these monies through the County Court as a debt owed, however the absent father is claiming the County Court does not have jurisdiction to hear this claim. Can I continue to pursue this matter, which has caused a considerable amount of distress, through the County Court?
Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
I contacted the Child Maintenance Service in September 2014 when my daughter was 4 as her father had started working and hadn't given me a penny for her. I received many letters stating dates when my ex had to start paying, these dates came and went and I didn't receive anything. Anyway, I received a text on Sunday 26th of February 2017 stating my first payment had been received and I did indeed receive this 3 days later on Wednesday 1st of March 2017. That was three weeks ago and I haven't had anything since?! My ex said he has paying it for months (which I'm guessing is just another lie), I contacted the CMS and was told that my payments had gone from weekly to monthly...but if he can't/won't pay weekly then am I realistically going to get anything monthly?
Btw, he does not have any excuse not to pay, he has contact with the kids (which he cancels very often just to hurt me...won't sign the divorce either because he is a control freak). I'm a working parent, with childcare bills running into £10,000 annually. Surely, he can spare the calculated £40/wk (for 2 kids under 5) from his insurance policy on the Range Rover.
My youngest could walk past his dad and would not know him.
About 6 yrs ago he went to see his dad. Who came to the window and saw him and then went back in.
Before that day. I used to take them both to see their dad. And I couldn't sustain it. He's told benefits. He is too ill to work. He is 51yrs old and has worked for 6 yrs of his life.
He owes me £10,000 in child support. Has a mortgage free house. A new car. Due to his dodgy deals.
In all the years he has given the boys a handful of gifts. They wanted his time and not his money. But he didn't give them that.
I've worked all my life. Sometimes having 3 jobs. My 24 yr old is doing his masters degree in psychology and my youngest is going to study law. And is an A star student.
So not all women are blood sucking women. I have pride in myself and my children
The problem I have is that cms won't help me find out if they are at uni or collage there answer is to report it to child benefit office , which I have and with no help.
The mother will obviously take my money till these children are 20 years of age.
So please can someone tell me what to do cause I'm struggling to pay this amount .
I've been paying csa since me and my ex split up. I'm just curious of why they take 20% of my top line wage before deductions? The tax and national insurance goes to the government, so shouldn't they be giving my money to my children? Also as well, why do csa work on how many nights you have them? Surely they should go on days as you provide for them throughout the day, and they sleep at night. How system is terrible.
Regards.
1) Write the time and date, the number you rang/that rang you, name of who you spoke to, how long the call took and briefly note the subject of the of EVERY phone call.
2) Even better, record the call too. If you do, and they haven't already stated that the call maybe recorded, ask them. If they say no, then you just state that "this call maybe recorded". - They constantly lie about the content of phone calls and lose or cant find any, when requested for a copy, which corroborate your version of events.
3) Keep a copy of each letter sent, send them signed for delivery, keep the receipt and get a copy of the recipients signature (available online) - They consistently "lose" or "don't receive" mail at quite a fantastic rate, but usually only when it can be used in their favour.
4) Send all available information youre able as prompt as when asked for. If youve sent them information for a certain period, and subsequent requests for information are already within that you have already sent, just refer them to than compliance. - Do NOT resend that which you have already with out presenting them with an administration fee (you have already fulfilled your legal obligation and are fully entitled to charge them for duplicate copies). Theyll use any excuse to try and either push you past the time limit for contesting a quarter or issuing fines or escalations due to your "non-compliance".
5) Always talk to them, when doing so voice to voice, in a calm and polite manner. - They will use any tactic to make you appear uncooperative. The slightest annoyance in your voice can be used to acceptably terminate an "abusive customer", leading to "non-compliance".
6) If it might not be in their interest, they will with hold information from you, and suggest courses of action that only benefit them. They will not openly tell you about things like, Equal Shared Care (only mentioned once, in one sentence in all the advertised CMS literature, and not even explained), notional entitlement (this is where if they cannot irrefutably prove a "mistake" was your fault, there exists a rule where they have to either "pay" (write off) half of an overpayment/arrear, or write it all off.), your entitlement to half child related benefits when in equal shared care and there is more than one child, and whosoever receives child related benefits currently, is not proof enough of the "resident/receiving" parent
7) AS SOON as they start playing up, make an official complaint. If they dont get their act together or adequately address the complaint, send them a Subject Access Request (its free). When the wad of toilet paper arrives, go through it with a copy of the DPA re SAR to hand and note down all the areas they've contravened the DPA. Within 14 days send them the list of their wrong doings, give the 14 days to reply. If they still havent got their act together escalate the complaint to the DPA ombudsman and your local Muppet Puppet.
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The reason they could employ the maximum payment terms? Because "she" with held all contact, thereby increasing the amount i'd have to pay. The reason they were demanding more in payments than i even actually earned? because "she" said I was earning more than I was. What happened when I used the last of my savings to fight for custody through the courts? She moved, knowing full well by the time it got to court, the judge wouldnt up root her and thereby removing any possibility of me having anything more than odd weekends. How was all the money I and my family had given her for maintenance accounted for? It wasnt, "no proof, sorry witness statements are not proof, we need to see bank transfers going from your account into hers, receipts of things for your daughter etc."!?
How about I gave her a house in which to live AFTER we split, rent free, how does that affect your calculations? (a house btw she took out secured loans and a remortgage on, that I had to pay half of", a house she tried to claim was all hers (i'd stupidly put the house in her name, but under the agreement it was only half hers, and it was for the fact of housing our daughter as at the time she was adamant that the only way i was going to have any contact was if i paid regular maintenance AND let her keep living in the house rent free AND allowed her custody/residency) after a falling out which then lead to with held contact, again. She used my claim on taking her to court, to prove that i was equal owner of the house, against me in court when i also was seeking an emergency order to prevent her moving 120 miles away (which i did with the last of my savings) saying i was forcing her and our daughter out of a home (which she used as "sound" basis for moving into her mums tiny flat 120 miles away). "it doesnt because she doesnt agree with your version of events"
FWD a few years, through which I lost everything, received £13k from a £150k house sale that she received over £50k from, she moved 120miles away as the emergency order wasnt granted, got a new job, stopped paying csa so i could fight for a contact order ("she" kept contact very sporadic), lost with the contact order in court, and
My renewal is 21 Feb, but they have calculated payments from April through to March 2018. This leaves this years March payment on the previous years rate. Totally illogical
My child is now 20yrs old and arrears are c. £25k. Last payment made was £85.00 three years ago. I feel that CSA are negligent in chasing him and also in the lack of interest being applied to these arrears. What are my options?
Yours faithfully,
Lyn
So i gave up simple as ! Apparently though he accrued arrears now ive had 2 letters telling me how much he owes and that he must pay back - well ok but when and more importantly HOW are you goin to do that this time round after nearly 8 years ??
The CSA have now been in touch and are asking hefty repayments. I was initially told the debt belonged to the child, now they are saying I have to pay more to my ex than she pays for the children who actually live with us. This is a ludicrous situation. They won't write the debts off as they are separate organisations. If the debt belongs to the child and is payed to the resident parent then that's me, the CSA are not being helpful. I have started the complaints process
I know this situation is unusual and would really appreciate some advice.
They don't live together and (although I know this is accepted by the cms) she has put a claim in for cms for their child.
This means my money for my child has reduced significantly. However because of a separate court case he has had to show a years worth of bank statements and low and behold since she put the claim in for their child, he hasn't paid her anything.
They are obviously in it together, they are girlfriend and boyfriend and she's put a claim into reduce my child's money meaning. My ex doesn't have to pay out each month... what can I do?
Firstly, I 100% agree that a non-resident parent should contribute to the upbringing on their child. In the same breath, if mother repeatedly denies access and flouts many contact orders, why should the father be punished financially as well when he wants to be a part of the child's life? It's costs money to pursue access through the courts too.
I sought a DNA test to prove my daughter was mine and battled through the courts for 7 years, obtaining 32 contact orders, all of which were ignored. There is no punishment for this, you just reapply and wait many months for the next hearing and then try to agree on contact - a complete joke given the reason for going to court in the first place is because you want contact but are denied - the cycle just repeats itself.
At court order number 32, after about 50 court appearances, the judge basically threatened my ex with imprisonment if she didn't comply. That was 7 years ago and I haven't had to return to court since.
Anyway, during the period 2003-2006, when I was denied contact at every turn, my ex went to the CSA as she thought I should be paying for a child she wouldn't let me see.
Fast forward 11 years and today I have received a letter from CMS saying I owe the over 4 grand in arrears for this period. They do not care about the circumstances and even refuse to provide a breakdown of how they arrived at this figure. During this time I was 22-25 years old and earned £5 per hour as a barman, before minimum wage came in; spent quite a few months unemployed, then got on the career ladder and earned £17-25k per annum over a couple of jobs.
Renting in the private sector in London, eating, surviving and paying to go to court repeatedly, I wasn't exactly leading the life of Riley.
My ex has never worked, has gone on to have 4 more kids and although, I have had access over the last 7 years (irregular) I have to accept the fact that my daughter also calls another man "Dad".
Not very nice to be honest.
I've saved for my daughter for years, money I planned to give her at 21 to give her a good start in life. I have a new family, another daughter and am the sole breadwinner.
I don't have 4 grand lying around. I don't have a car. We've not been on holiday in years. It costs me £600 per month to commute 70 miles to work every day in London.
The only way I can meet this demand is by taking from the money I have saved for my daughter over the last 7 years. The way I see it, the state were complicit in robbing my daughter of a loving father for much of her childhood. Now, they will be robbing from her future. And if anyone thinks my daughter will see any of the money CMS claims I owe, they have their head in the clouds.
Not fair at all I think!
reason I'm asking I've had a fall out with my daughter who has now gone to live with her dad. I had a CMS claim that I cancelled because I was sick of the phone calls because they couldn't get any money off of him. A year later and he still hasn't paid the measly £400 he owes. I ended up having to pay the same amount because I let him claim the CB for my youngest daughter and I claimed for the eldest. I though this was fair as we had shared care although I do all the doctors etc. And have residence. When my eldest became 18 he then put in a claim to the CMS I couldn't believe it. My 18 year old was living with me full time and we had shared care of my younger daughter. Because he claimed th CB I didn't have a leg to stand on although I sent in all court documents. Anyway after I ask for a mandatory reconsideration it was deemed I was in fact the main carer and he had to reimburse me the money I paid plus pay me CM. all I wanted was my £400 back that I paid hence cancelling the claim. Now my daughter has moved in with her dad as we've had a falling out I'm worried he's going to do the same. He's already out in for the CB (I pay the whole amount into my daughters bank account each week anyway so I don't get a penny of it). She still gets regular money off of me even though she's not living here. Dinners are paid for , school uniform etc. So my question still stands can he put in a claim to CMS if he owes me £400? I know it's coming and if I have to pay CM so be it but how can this be if he owes me money. Surely he had to pay his arreas before they take his claim on.
26/1/17
I think the child maintanance service should if fact be called - support for the non paying parent!!!
Quite frankly folks I get more support from my underwear ??
Thank you
I've read so many times over again of mothers and children being abandoned and neglected by husband/boyfriend/father.
It's quite soul destroying.
My situation, I was married and have two beautiful children. Their father and I divorced in Canada. I returned to UK just 4 years ago as I was living in fear due to domestic abuse situation.
Upon returning my ex husband stopped paying child support despite a court order being in place and a maintenance order. Some how he is escaping the enforcement rules. I've been trying for over 3 years alone to find out why? I find the Canadian authorities very unhelpful. I even spoken with the courts and they advise me to get legal representation which is an expense I can't afford. Thankfully through maintenance options they gave me advice and now I've applied to REMO which a government run agency who work within Her Majesty Court and Tribunal service who will act on your behalf to communicate with other countries. (list of countries on their website) there is no charge for this service. To my knowledge you need to have a court order in place if not they can advise you further. It's worth a chat. I now have this in progress and they do advise you it may take some time.
After 7 years of being a single mum, I met what I thought was a great guy. He works in the Police Force, had a difficult divorce himself and children. What I thought to be a good relationship and family life seemed turned sour quite quickly when I became pregnant. It was unexpected as our contraception method had not gone to plan. I was happy about the baby, especially having had a miscarriage almost 18 months earlier. We had discussed having a baby at a later date.
The day I gave him the news he up and left and did not return. He text me at work to say he had emptied the house of his belongings.
You can imagine the emotional turmoil. Not only had he abandoned myself and his unborn baby but my two children who loved him very much. He also deprived his own children from saying goodbye. We was all very close.
He has not returned despite my efforts in sending pictures of baby scans and inviting him to talk about things and to attend hospital appointments. I'm in disbelief that anyone could behave this way.
Due to my sudden change in life it left me quite vulnerable. I have no family living local to me and trying to get childcare for a 9 and 11 yr old seemed impossible. After asking my boss for flexible hours or an adjustment to finish two hours early one day in the week to assist with my childcare needs. I was informed I couldn't do this and was told if I didn't fix it, I would have to leave. I lost my job, my health deteriorated and I've been suffering with a lot of stress and anxiety. Struggled to find work. Financial strains have been high.
This got me thinking and feeling there was a real injustice here. How there will be many women in my situation.
I've been researching into our laws and what is available fo
So, how many years, times, do you have to ask him for money until, any of your consequences take place?
My partner has two children from a previous relationship and has brought them up all on his own, their mother never paid a penny towards them until my partner went through the CSA and she always paid late and then not enough money that the CSA calculated she should be paying
They agreed to go through the pay direct scheme as her payments were unreliable and they gave her lots of chances to pay and get in touch with them to arrange affordable payments and now it seems she is wanting to give up work to avoid paying for her children completely! This is really unfair as she has done absolutely nothing for her children. If she does give up work will CSA still take some sort of payment from her?
Thanks for your help
i received a letter to say that my case with csa had been closed when my daughter reached 20 ( my daughter lived with her father from the age of 4). I have received since 2001 and maybe before that zero balance on my yearly statements with no inclination to owing any money , as i said zero balance . Then in may this year,a year after the case had been closed the csa contacted me saying that they have decided to collect a debt that they had previously decided not to collect £649.21 . I ignored it and thought they had made a mistake but today another letter lands on the mat saying i owe this money . I called the number and spoke to the advisor who advised me that they had suspended the debt in 2001 and then the statements do not show this debt and show a zero balance . i am pretty angry but the advisor insists that they can collect the money as i owe it to the government . It is so far back with no mention again since 2001 can they do this ? I'm very stubborn and will fight this if i have the correct advice as i don't really know where i stand
Any advice would be helpful thank you ,
This month the last payment of £20.28p
Yes 28p. Was supposed to be paid but they took £200.
They said they would contact payroll and adjust it but they haven't they are inapproachable with it past about on the phone . no response to emails .
My calculation was purely made up with no substance or proof of earnings needed by them . they wanted money from when my ex was on benefit. Iv had 7 years of poverty on the back of it. I had my daughter nearly every day growing up but she refused to tel them all this. My dauter is now 22 I'm 50 .
She had also a child not by me but the CDA have never once chased him for a penny and she is 27
This country is just insane
Thank you
Csa state that I have arrears on my case for a period where the resident parent requested them to collect payments through the agency however I was paying the resident parent direct but they will not take this into account because I unbeknown should have paid through them.
I was unaware that I would be liable to pay money to the csa as well as direct payment.
Legally can I challenge this?
What happens with court and will I definitely get the money owed too me and my daughter. I know know for a fact he's in full time employment but he's paid cash in hand.
Thank you
Do I need to pay while I'm waiting to hear from the csa? Or do I just wait till I get the exact amount from them? Thank you
My partner has been laying CSA to his ex every month. He has a DOE so it comes off his waves however he has since started a new job. The CSA are asking for 3 months worth of payslips but he hasn't been there 3 months, what will happen? He is really worried that they will take a huge lump sum of cash from him to backdate these 3 months. Any advice would be appreciated
Can something be done to make him pay and sort all this out.
There’s over £10K in arrears for last couple years from my ex-h. he works full time however renting furnished flat, has no car, doesn’t need driving licence for work or leisure even, doesn’t have any valuable belongings in his flat, is director of his own ltd and he closed his old bank account from which payments were taken before. So CSA, as far as I can see, has only one option – apply for liability order and then send him to prison. Can this be done without having to waste time trying all other avenues?
Thank you.
My ex does not sign on or claim any jobs seekers.he works cash in hand but pays no maintenance. Where do I stand with claiming maintaine from him as he seems to think if he gets a call he can say he has no income and can prove it.
Having chased the CSA for the billionth time today, they have confirmed that my ex husband owes £1,700 in arrears which they advised that they would recover via a bailiff back in April but to date they haven't. I rang them to advise them that my daughter has a job now which places me into the "arrears" and not "current" scheme which is due to close anyway. They also advised me that although my case will be passed on to the new scheme for collection, due to the number of cases, it could take years to recover.
Does anyone know if I can take sue him personally in order to recover this outstanding debt?
Many thanks,
Amanda
I'm aware there will be arrears from the raise in pay, which they backdate but they say they won't backdate discounts for the nights I now have him even though I have court documents.
I'd still owe arrears on aggregate but it seems that they just want to take every penny possible.
Do I have any rights to contest this?
Thanks
arrears or will they automatically take it off him?
When I was first assessed oi had a good well paid job so payments were high. The company went bust so I lost my job. I was then on a lower wage but due to a breakdown it never go reassessed so the debt has built up over the years. How can I get this reassessed or even written off like my 30year old amount.
Ok so I should of paid but the Ex was a drunk and was never at home. I recently found out she use to beat my eldest son. I had them ever other week and every holiday. Bought clothes and drove 200plus miles every other weekend to get them
Please can someone advise if I have a right to stop my ex husband seeing our child. We were married when we had our daughter and now we are officially divorced and he moved on and living with his new gf. I don't have anything against them, as it was my decision to split up few years ago. It's been 3 years now and for the sake of my daughter I accepted his terms on the days he was deciding to see her, but I think it's his way at getting back to me. He hasn't had our 7 year old daughter overnight once. He sees her 2 a months on Sundays from 12-7 and it leaves me with no time for myself and unfortunately I do take my frustration of not having a social life our on our little girl sometimes. Its almost like he dictates me when he's going to turn up. I want him to fight for her and give me a break too. I know I can just get awkward and not be at home on the day he chooses to pick her up, but I am not a nasty person and don't want to go that root. Please advise how can I stop him dictating me what to do?
I would like some advice as my ex won't let me see our daughter unless she is controlling every aspect of it. we split 18 months ago as we were in a unhappy marriage and I met someone else ,not good I know, and I understand completely her resentment towards me but I don't think it's fair to use our daughter to hurt me as this is only making our daughter suffer too. I am only allowed to see her if my girlfriend is still not involved (after 18 months) because we split up once because of the lies my ex told her so she says we aren't stable but I think these are all excuses. I'm not allowed to take her to my home or even allowed to take her out in the car as it's my girlfriends even though I'm insured?. I am currently registered with a solicitor and trying to arrange mediation but I'm afraid she will say no and I can't really afford court. I have stopped maintenance as I can't afford to pay for that and the solicitors which makes her more angry towards me but I don't know any other way to go about it. Can she do this and is there a way to sort this
As far as I am concerned he should be told how much I should pay him not my salary as this is an inflingement of my privacy and he has no right to know this information as we are no longer together.
He uses this as a means to blackmail me and carrying on being emotionally and financially abusive to which is why I left him.
Also is is my gross income so he does not allow for the taxman and national insurance taken off.
He is unemployed and claims extortionate benefits because both the children have Asperger's syndrome and he holds them back in their ability to hold down a normal life so he can keep those benefits.
Seems to me if you are a hard working person paying your CSA payments you get penalised.
They told me that they were closing my account anyway in a few months so there was nothing more they could do for me!!
My ex hubby is self employeed so the just are not willing to help me... I work and always have done.. I get no benefit help.. I am completely struggling and feel the system has completely let my son down
My ex partner is so bitter and spiteful, even though he was the one who left his family, that he has done everything he can to not pay any maintenance. He has companies in different names, has a dodger accountant and is also paid cash in hand, so that his income is not detected by CMS. If it wasn't so frustrating, it'd be laughable. Especially as there is more than one child he has done this to. My daughter, now 12, knows that her father avoids paying maintenance and this is just another reason that she does not want to have contact with him anymore. He will never have a loving, respectful relationship with her father again. His very sad loss as she is a very beautiful, intelligent girl, who brings joy to my life that far surpasses the lack of financial support he wrangles out of paying.
The have all his information and do nothing, absolutely nothing.
He was asked to pay £5 fortnightly in the beginning by CSA but it never materialised. So I have never received a penny. Where do I even start?! How would I know what I am owed? I'm aware the preferred method now is to arrange it yourself. I would need informed details surely before making claims to him of sums I assume to be owed?!
I asked whether he would ever get the £1000 fine, they threaten with for each time he ignores, does not tell them when he moves home/job or for the decade of not paying.....I was told they don't fine and it's a flawed system.
The only thing that is happening here, is that I am owed £13k in arrears ( from money I have had to pay all on my own for the last 11 years) and my child gets no continual support from both her parents.
I'm tired of not being kept up to date, tired of excuses, tired of a system that allows this to happen!
Csa sent a letter stating that payment would be made on the 7th and yet I have received nothing
Thanks for your help
My ex and I came to an agreement where i am now paying double to the set figure I was originally paying.I have paid this amount by standing order from my account to hers since we agreed 4 years ago, I have my daughter every friday and saturday but she sleeps every other weekend, as I only get friday and saturday off every week, My ex keeps blackmailing me if i don't do everything she asks me to do that she will take me back to csa. where I haven't missed 1 payment. please can you tell me where I stand on this because I am feeling very depressed and bullied by my ex.
My dad has played an active part in my life but now my mums chasing him for unpaid child maintenance, which he did pay just not directly through the csa so he has no proof, I am now 21 years old, is there anything I can do to help or stop this case?many thanks
Left: January 2006 Came back December 2006
Left: July 2007 Came back August 2007
Left: September 2007 Came back November/December 2007
Left July 2008 permanently- My landlord maybe able to corroborate this as he installed a new bathroom in January 2008.
The arrears covered this period of time and originally was written off by the csa as it was clear I had, was and do make payments. They recently wrote to me informing me I owed the secretary of state this sum bearing in mind that it is now 2016. Can they enforce this as a debt as my ex and I even wrote a letter confirming that I had always provided for my child.
I managed to get one sorted out set up a standing order to the mother where she took the money then refused to agree now I have a doe of 378 a month
I went to court for access I'm not an absent father just denighed by my children's mother to be with our children
I'm discriminated because I'm a fixed income home owner and I want to see our children
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My ex in currently in arrears of £3,000 for child maintenance over 9 years. I've given the details of his new address and phone number. They said they have rang him and hes requested a DNA test. Nobody else is getting back to me from CSA. He is also now going through a custody battle with another woman who he has a child with as well as having a different pregnant girlfriend. What can I do? I constantly ring the csa to be updated but my case worker never gets back to me. They've made contact with him after 9 years how come nothing is being done? How long does it normally take? And how long will they wait before they decide to use there enforcement powers?
ive always paid maintenance on deo and basically pay what they ask for.ive asked where arrears is from but they say it happens then asked where the money is going to they say back to the state why i dont oh the state money does this either sound like my ex has said that ive not payed her at all we did have a private agreement at the beginning on which when we didn't see eye to eye the csa were involved private agreement from 2000 till 2003 yes i new i was in arrears at the beginning on which i was paying off on top of regular maintenance and over the years the csa have made blunders by saying ive overpaid and that because i was in arrears they were taken the over payment off the acount on which was cleared back in 2008 so why do they say i oh this amount of money ? ive had my MP involved but with no sucsees si iam at my witts now,but does this sound like my ex has said that ive not paid any money to her when i was paying her private just dont understand atall looks like iam paying taken the Micky out of me cheers steve
I am a responsible mother paying for a roof over our heads and concerned that if his relationship with the current girlfriend ends what will happened to my future payments.
Worried mum of two.
After 12 days my family pulled together and paid the ten thousand pounds to the prison services where I was held. Unfortunately at the time my wife didn't get a receipt for the payment made as she was under a lot of stress and going through chemotherapy she just wanted me out of prision.
After three years the CSA have denied ever receiving the monies paid and are now chasing the debt again.
I have managed to send documents from the prision services supporting my claim that all monies where paid. The CSA want a paper receipt and will not accept electronic confirmation even though I have sent them emails from the prison services and the solicitors acting at the time that the entire debt had been settled.
The prison service can no longer send me a paper receipt.
After a along and tiresome two months going back and forth the CSA have now threaten to evict me my wife and my two small children and put my house up for sale to pay the ten thousand pound debt.
I have been In touch with my local MP whom looked at my case and basically told me I had been stitched up and there was nothing he could do and that I was on my own. I am totally at my wits end and I do not know what to do, I can not afford to get a solicitor involved. Please help.
I forever get fobbed off and now he owes over £1000 in arrears.
I was told that they would get around to my case of arrears as they do them in date order and then give me the option to write them off or claim them...I don't know how many people are in the position to 'write off' a whole year of financial support but I'm certainly not. It's frustrating and disheartening as its a constant struggle for us while he buys himself brand new iPads and iPhones and boasts about new cars and tattoos...
He on the other hand takes great pleasure in rubbing my face in the fact he goes on holidays 2-3 times a year , drives around in a new car and buys our daughter the occasional gifts ie birthdays and Christmas but doesn't see the fact that the day to day up keep of her is essential , he sees her on a regular basis but never over night so I'm the main carer for her .im really at my wits end with it all and feel like I'm getting nowhere fast - do I just give up and except that there is no light at the end of the tunnel , this has been going on for 5 years it's disgusting how parents are able to get away with out paying anything - not even a gesture of helping with school dinners 10 pound a week , totally shocking and I'm starting to loose all faith in the system .
A year ago the eldest went to live with his mum who I paid an agreed amount to each week for but no money paid to me for the youngest
Keeps threatening to go to csa to get more money most months
How do I stand
I work full time
She is on benefits and got other kids
I've just used the calculator and found that what I receive for my children (who I never see) would be based on a gross income of around 13,500. However he's had a promotion at work (quite a while back) and I can't see how that, plus 11 years of inflation could see him earning over £1500 less a year than what he was on when we were married.
I know his boss would fiddle the payslips for him. Is there any way I can get the CSA to check his P60s for the last few years so they can see that he's been lying to them about his wages? I'm furious that this man, who hasn't bothered once in 11 years to see his children is doing this. It's just another form of control from a violent and domineering man.
Surely they would have access to his detail via HMRC tax ?
I have been to my local mp who in turn sent letters to the house of commons and still they can do nothing. They no his earnings . He doesn't pay tax so how is he allowed to get away with not paying his taxes as well as not supporting his children. He earns 1, 500 a month minimum. So is he not committing fraud? Banging my head against a brick wall and all I hear is he tells everyone he gives his boy's everything when they don't even get a birthday card, Xmas card and he's not bothered to see or speak to them in 4 years. Where else can I take my case? CSA cannot take his passport or driving licence or imprison him as they can't prove he can pay as when money is entered into his account he withdraws it straight away the system's ridiculous
He reported himself to the agency after becoming openly involved with another woman.
He did not stick to his own arrangements with the csa and at the time I was of ill health and tbh, I don't really understand this system at all.
Subsequent issues of violence and police involvement made communication difficult and I find that this encouraged 'direct payment scheme' is really stressful. I feel like I'm begging him for support for our children and still locked in the abuse that I left in the first place.
As it was him that contacted the agency I'm not aware of a lot of details and have had little correspondence with them until recently.
My ex has moved home, employment and relationship several times.
His new employment would mean an increase to his calculated payment but I wasn't aware of his details and he did not contact the agency.
Now they know from his own admission when he began the new employment, they still state they will not backdate the increase in amount.
His new partners children (not his biologically) are factored into his earnings however, meaning a reduction for his own children (who he does not have contact with) yet his partners earnings or any funds she receives is not considered relevant in calculation?!?
He is not being penalised for not providing his correct information and it's only now I am informed I am supposedly as much to blame for him misleading us all because regardless of the fact I am intimidated by him, I should know all his business and should have informed the agency about him sooner!?
These rules and regulations don't make sense:
I was willing to write off the debt I didn't understand to keep some form of regular payments happening and not have fear or anxiety. Hoping that would mean the children could have present and future payments going smooth as it's been over a year since I had any letter from the CSA and at the end of the day, the children do need regular financial support at least!
The agency has never assisted in providing this nor does it seem like it is willing to.
the impending impact on my children and their perceived status and outlook in terms is quite criminal.
They are being classed as worthless in comparison.
I can't understand why my children, already emotionally and financially abandoned by an abusive father are still at a deficit within a system that is meant to "support" children.
The irony is he made the initial claim!
They have been swindled.
Next year my boy turns 16, i am currently paying CS.
i feel the system is very unfair as his mother has never kept up her legal responsibilities and would rather blame me.
after taking me to court to have his name changed i got to see him for the first time in 7 years as myself and my x dont get on and she would see me dead first for no other reason than she has an irrational hatred of me because the wheels of our relationship fell off and she resented me ever since.
it seems this was just a carrot dangled in front of me to get me to play ball in court, not to mention they stopped one step short of adoption because they would stand to lose my £250 per month. (not their reasons given but im not daft.)
now i know what you will say, go to court yadda yadda, but basically his mother is explosive (not to mention punchy) and i/we (imo) had put my boy through enough trauma, i wasn't in a good place mentally and decided to take a step back so that he may at least live life without his parents at each overs throats his whole life.
She also had me done by the csa after i was paying her privately and lied about cash payments made to her and i was forced to pay 9k by the csa (i had to pay 130 p/w it nearly did me) when i had already paid her approx 5k and only broke payment when she refused my access and i decided to step back. this was over years ago and after a large complaint to the csa i managed to recover 1k however i suspect this was a token amount to stop me going to court. as it was the whole thing nearly finished me so i accepted it.
My questions runs thus.....
when will i stop paying child support? i know its up until he leaves fulltime education but how can i trust her to keep the csa correctly informed when she has had more than a decade long vendetta against me?
also why are women and the CSA allowed to meter out such punishments to people?
why are these people not being done for fraud when they are caught (i got 1k back out of them after all)
i found the csa themselves to be a antogonising bunch of people who just dont like men full stop. e.g we have your case you must be a massive b******. whereas i can assure you im not, my girlfriend of 11 years has always stood by my stance.
I am my wife's carer and the CSA are taking £1 per week to repay these arrears.
Can anyone tell me what happens should I return to full time employment
My husband has received a letter from CSA saying he owes £441 from 2003. Why has it taken this long for them to ask for this? Isn't there a time limit on collecting money owed?
Does the whole amount have to be paid at once or can he agree to pay so much a month as we don't have a lot of spare money at the moment.
My partner received a letter from the csa today (sept 2015) it said that although we closed your case we have now decided to fine you £1014 and that you must pay £7 a week. His son is now 20 and he has never had to pay csa or maintenance due to having his son 4 nights a week, although he still gave his ex £25 a week. This was decided by the csa in 1997 and he has never received any letters since.
He contacted the csa today and they explained that he owed the money to the Secretary of state not the child. It was explained that because there was a change in circumstances between Oct 1998 and Feb 1999 and they did not receive the form they sent out (of which would have been sent back if it was received). He was being fined £104 per week for this period (may I add that this would amount to more than the £1014 they have calculated). When asked what the change in circumstances was the reply was that he had to supply that. 17 yrs is a long time...He has no idea what it was...maybe address!?
We are writing to request all data kept regarding my partner. Is there anything else that can be done in the meantime before they start taking it out of his wages.
Things had been fine for past 3months now my ex has received a letter saying I should have been paying the original amount and Ive been sent a letter about being nearly £1000 in arrears?? Even if you add up the difference between original & revised payment for the past 3months it comes nowhere near what they say the arrears are!
Not getting much joy or answers when I call CMS and I cant afford to pay a third of my wage in maintenance till they manage to sort it out :(
My ex works for an oil company. His basic pay is around £36,000 pa and with overtime last year he earned £76,000. I know cause I say his P60. He has our 2 girls every second weekend Friday - Monday. I don't understand how this can be...can someone explain???
Problem now is that I have 2 open cases, one of them being for a 21 year old who has been working since 2010. Current liability started in Feb 2015??? Was told it was a mistake & to ignore it, now I've received an updated arrears letter with all this years missed payments!! Still ongoing to decipher what is going on???
They seem to be doing nothing and he manages to keep avoiding it.
My partners daughter is starting university this september, CSA have told him that he needs to continue paying until they say otherwise, I was under the impression that CB had to be in payment for CSA to continue and CB (child ben) ends when someone enters into higher education. they also state that payments are made in arrears, so there would be several payments left to pay, even though they took a payment a week after the original arrangment was set up.
any help avialable would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
I'm looking for advise , my sons absent father has avoided the csa and cms for the past 8 years . Despite an attachment of earnings being in place. I make weekly phone calls to the cms only to be fobbed off with the same sentence each week . "The employment team are looking into it and will be in touch in 7 days " today I said this unacceptable amongst other things and they've now mentioned prosecuting the employer. And he has arrears of nearly 31k . What can I do to ensure they do there job and maintenance is paid ?
Thanks
CSA have been taking payment from the non resident parent consistently for over 2 years as per a statement of account that was requested, the balance is sitting at over £300 and CSA are only liable for repayment of £5 per week since the non. Resident is on benefits. The interface is repeatedly breaking down and as such their is a breakdown of the money reaching the resident parent. Is their anyway of pressuring CSA into making a effort in repaying the accrued credit?
yet received two letters with two different amounts to pay.
Here are the two contact ref no: 4570048983 -
E078288088.
CSA ref-1151444727-
Both letters sent on June 3rd.
Also how can I be in arrears, the CSA contacted in April this year, 14th April.
Surly the payments should start when the claim began, as the mother was receiving money before in her account from me so was never not being paid, every month was receiving and when asked for extra got this too.
When the form for direct debt was sent I filled out and returned. Yet an attachments to earnings was made.
Also might add
Regards
M
Hence the CSA had CCJ's and court orders for abusing powers and corrupting the legal system here in the UK, not to mention abusing UK and EU human rights.
Men and Women can grumble all you wish, it does not change the law and the rights of EVERY citizen in the UK. The reason a "Small minority" of guys get away with not paying anything is not simply because of job hopping or running away as some Women are led to believe, it is simply the fact that a "Small minority" of guys understand their legal and lawful rights and pay nothing.
My child's 'father' owes in excess of £20,000 now, just keeps hopping from job to job, and cos csa take sooooo long to process cases, by the time they catch up with him and decide how much he should pay, he's moved on and the whole process starts all over again; been going on for 8years + now.
if I owed that in rent, me and my child would have been out on the street a long time back, and if I owed that in council tax I'd be in prison! But because I am just an individual doing my best to bring up a child, no-one seems to give a whatsit!
He was working part time as a doorman last year when my partner approached child support for a financial contribution from him.
seeing as some of his work was cash in hand & him also being a sly old fox , the csa said he should pay £30 per month for his children, He has done this but not without being reminded and explaining to him that he will be losing respect from his daughters as they get wiser.
We know for the last year that he has been working 5-6 days a week both night and day work on various security jobs, when my partner tells him to inform the csa he replies that they base it on last years earnings therefore he does not need to pay any more, He is 48 so not a young doorman , I too have a 13 year old daughter who lives with me 50% of the time & i contribute £80-100 a month plus buy her things as any decent parent would. My question is ' how can we make the csa aware of his change in earnings, a bit long winded I know but just fed up of being taken for a mug thank you
I have a son who split from his partner sometime ago. Together they had one daughter. He has always made regular maintenance payments, at first privately, then through the CSA after bitterness between them both made it impossible to communicate. He had been unemployed up until November last year when he started a self employed position. Up until this point maintenance was being deducted from his benefit. However his job didn't last long and just before Christmas he found himself out of work due to change in business requirements for the company he was working for. This threw him into a serious state of depression and since then he hasn't claimed benefits or been working and has been helped and supported by myself and a couple of other members of my family. It simply got to the point where he couldn't face returning to the Jobcentre after being so glad to be "out the system" regarding benefits. He has informed the CSA that he isn't working or claiming benefits at present and continues to seek employment. My question is, will arrears have built up since the start of this year even though he hasn't worked or claimed benefits up to now? Since he wrote explaining the situation there hasn't been any further communication via the CSA regarding a new payment plan or how things stand debt wise.
I have been involved in my sons life since birth. I have had an agreement with my ex to pay quite a substantial amount each month and I have my some a quarter of the time.
I would like him more but I work. My ex is now threatening to go through the CSA for no reason. She has just split with her new boyfriend and she is due him money. I can't help but feel she is doing this to repay Her debt when there was no issue before about our agreement. This has come out of no where and I feel she is using the money to pay off her debts and not to benefit my son when all has been done for 7 years? What can I do?
Thankyou
i have recently recieved a letter from Child support Agency to tell me that child maintenace payments are stopping that my Ex legal responsibility to pay regular maintenace through CSA (child Maintenace and Enforcement Division Norhern Ireland has ended for this case, now i have a ref number on the letter but apparently when i try to log in apparently im not using the information they have , but what is really bothering me is I have never declared that my Ex is my sons father, nor is his name on the birth certificate and here is the kicker i have NEVER RECEIVED any payments of child maintenace, so i need some advice on what this letter is about and what i do about it, the letter also came to my recent home (we have moved house 4x since i was pregnant with my son and the letter has come to my recent address and it is also in my maiden name (i have been married for 8yrs this October) so any help on these issues would be great) i assume he no longer needs to pay anything as my son is turning 16 in August, but he is also on dla and looking to go into 6th form after his exams are finished, but like i said ANY INFORMATION about this and what i'm ment to do about it would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance
I've worked out that based on earnings over 8 years/payrise etc that I am about 15k in arrears and looked in the CSA site and they say they want arrears cleared off in 2 years or they will take court action to recover the debt.
I have about £200 a month left out of my wage after paying off bills and debts assuming I was paying the right amount of CSA, while I could scrape together the monthly payments of regular CSA payments I don't have enough income to pay 15k worth of debt. CSA have never been incontact with me since they started taking it direct from my wages 8 years ago and I just assumed it was all dealt with through my wages department each year and they payed whatever CSA needed as CSA applied to the courts to have it taken from my wage.
I have a young child and a wife to support this has put me in a very difficult situation through no fault of my own and I don't understand at £20 a month out of my wage CSA haven't done anything about it as I still have the original letters which stated 8 years ago they were going to be taking £30 a week from my wage so I don't understand what has gone wrong here. even my ex hasn't contacted them about it asking after all this time why it is still £20 a month.
I'm reluctant to contact them now as don't have the financial means in order to pay £700+ a month they will probably ask for
If he really is that bad, you and your child can start afresh. You are so lucky that he doesn't have parental responsibility as you have the chance at a new start without him. My ex unfortunately is on birth certificate so whilst the restraining order was I'm force, he took me to court for access and now the order is over I have even less control and he has forbade me from using my surname for our daughter. Your money is sorted and that won't be affected, he has no pr. get out while you can and enjoy your life with your child! Good luck x
I have split up from my ex - we were together for about 10 months and not married. He has what seems some underlying issues and I don't trust him as he has lied to me and made things up..
I have a 4 months old baby with him which I love very much. I told him I don't want him in my and my baby's life unless he changes his attitude and becomes nice and decent..He keeps sending me aggressive emails and still keeps asking about seeing my baby. I have moved from my previous property and one of the reasons was that I felt uneasy in case he turns up..
He has agreed to CSA payments which I have sorted out now and waiting for my first payment.
However I do not want him anywhere near us he stresses me out and makes me angry.
My question is is it right that as we're not married and he doesn't have PR can he demand access to my baby?
Also what can I do to stop him harassing me? or who should I talk to?
Thanks
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Sarah
Can anyone please help me with a situation.
My son is 2 yr old and i split wid my husband while i was pregnant.
He has not seen the son ever but was working in a decent place and was paying csa regularly. Last week he left his job and has moved abroad and i dont know anything about his whereabouts.
What should i do now in terms of my finances?
Many thanks
ann
My ex partner refuses to give me any money towards our child (2years old).
Can I withdraw access till he pays the Child maintenance? (He works full time with a good salary).
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Can they come after him 7 years later for a false claim?
He has declined to requests for a token contribution to assist with extra tuition for the three children of the marriage
She knows that he receives a positive rental income ( rent exceeds mortgage payment) from a previously jointly owned flat which became sole owner as part of settlement and there is equity of circ 250k .
Question. Can she apply to court and claim part of the rental or further could she obtain a liability order for the amount currently in arrears - Circa 9k- and force the sale of the property to recover arrears
Any advice would be much appreciated, thank you.
All the paperwork states that there is no arrears month after month, year after year. In July last year the two boys left their mums home to go to uni, we contacted CSA to tell them. CSA case was being closed down from September despite them having left home two months before. The final payment was said to behest over £900 for the last few months. On asking for a total breakdown before making final payment, the CSA them say they have found arrears from mis calculations over 12 years ago, we now owe £1400, then two weeks later they said that they have found others monies owed and its £1800, now they say it is £2600. How can they do this. He has always paid in full whatever they have asked and provided full income details. How can they now on closing the account decide that we should have paid more 12 years ago and never told us but we owe it now.
Both her children have left home now and don't go back, so she has nothing to pay for, where as in our home I have 2 young children with him and we can't afford to live now as they are asking for amounts we don't have that we never knew we owed and we're always told we had no arrears.... Please help
Thank you in advance.
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I've been paying the CSA for more than 11 years but christmas eve I finally got what I've fought to get for most of those years, a DNA and that test proved I am not the child's father!
To cut a long story short ive paid more than £8000 in child suport the CSA closed the case and told me the case would be passed to there refund department yesterday 27/1 I got a reply telling me I wasn't in titled to a refund only the cost of the DNA test I was shocked to say the least! Not only have I lost a son but also £8000! I've spoken to many people and they are as shocked as me.
If anyone can shed some light on the injustice please let me no because im at a loss
penny towards there upbringing he claims he asn't go the mone .he works cash in hand
for a taxi company.he has a property under his name can i take him to court to secure some thing for the kids.it is really difficult raising children financially these days.can anyone help to point me in the right direction pls......
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New partners who complain about their new partner paying for their children.. You knew what you were taking on.. You know that if you have a child with them the other little people of the ex still need maintaining..so don't complain that you have no money and it's all the exs fault!!!
She says she was on the pill,oh right!...here's an idea USE A CONDOM..far cheaper than maintaining an innocent little person.
We are all to quick to maintain we are the ones who are fooled into pregnancy or that he was going to stick by me...it's the children that suffer!!!
I couldn't care less for csa payments I don't get any,nor have I for years..I'm not going to carry bitterness or hatred around with me.i will do my upmost to make sure my little people are loved and cared for regardless of money.. My ex can stick his money up his ricker...my view is money can't buy love or happiness.. Shirk your responsibility see who's the loser in the long run!!!!
I have just discovered he has sold his house, our family home & gone to live with his father. He has walked away with almost £50.000.
He refuses to the children although I have literally begged him to, so now he has left them with nothing. No father & no security.
Is there anything I can do?
Waste of space,all of them
For 2 years and works 1 day a week .can you tell me when do I stop paying my ex for his upkeep?
He has never refused or missed a payment for his children but his ex constantly uses them to hurt/punish him and it's absolutely disgusting to watch.... women like her make me sick. She protrays the image of 'the perfect mother' but her actions have distroyed her childrens relationship with their father and her lies have left them insecure and withdrawn.....
She, however is happy because she has someone to blame whenever something goes wrong and has a constant supply of money... to go on holiday with her friends while we pay for the kids to come on holiday with us.....
My partner has done absolutely nothing wrong but is constantly trying to prove his love for his kids because of the mothers actions and lies....
It's mothers like her that put decent mothers to shame.....
when child was born i paid cash in hand and sent 3 x slips signed statements .i was paying more but was in position with a good income then i lost employment in 2010.childs mother didnt want reduced payments
ii the got letter from csa demanding 58.10 backdated to when child was born despite me paying cash to mother..she cut off contact in may 2010....moved house i do not know where child is...then in july 2010 csa told me case was closed..then fast forward to july 2012 and a enforcemrnt letter arrives demanding £7880...DESPITE SAYING CASE WAS CLOSED.its not all mens fault
i have never had a payment from eldest mother in 13 plus years....
childs mother took good money when i had good income but still wanted same when i couldnt afford it
i still see my five children my ex has them all with her..
i am between employment
yes i made a mistake during marrige trouble but did my best to fix it
My story, well, in short he worked, CSA caught up, manged to get one payment, he left work place.
Fathered another child, worked cash in hand, claims unemployed, receiving JSA. That relationship dissolved, she claimed CSA, calculations were split between 2 kids, (£5 each fortnightly) and he continues to work, claim JSA, except the other child gets some cash payments from him.
Reported his fraudulent claiming and working, provided dates, addresses, telephone contacts, at current place for 3 years. CSA can't pursue cause DWP have to be informed, which I did, then CSA still can't check out his status until DWP prove his working and claiming fraudlenty.
So my question is, what's the use? As long as you claim benefits and work, CSA won't pursue you for telling them lies too. Receiving £2.50 a week for the last 4 years an insult and have now cancelled my CSA claim.
12 years later the said daughter now 29, we have received a demand for arrears, they have contacted my husbands employer to enforce deductions.
I have the letter regarding the 0.01, but they will not entertain it, now had to appeal get out MP involved, but they still going to take the money.
Plus the ex has been married 4 times now!!! We have been together 24 years....
OUTRAGEOUS!!!!
Now they are trying to get a court order against me for arrears that they areresponsiblee for!
I am fighting this with the aid of my MP!
My ex lied to the CSA!
The CSA refuse to accept that we were in a private arrangement and My son stays with me for three nights per week!
I am fighting the ex through the court for a changresidencedance order!
The ex is now on her third partner in 7 years!
I am a mother of a three-year-old girl. I am Serbian and my ex-husband is English. We got devorced in Serbia last year, after 5 years of relationship from which 1,5 year had been spent in marriage. Our daughter has a dual citisenship, Serbian and British. We had consensual devorce in which we agreed on the visits between him and her, as well as the child support amount that he would be paying. He suggested that that amount should be 300 euros per month and we have both agreed on that. Few moths ago he has moved to Serbia and has been having regular visits as agreed. He has also been paying the agreed amount each month with no delay.
Few days ago he has informed me that he considers that amout to be too high.
Additional information:
- Minimal child support in Serbia is 150 euros. (and that is very little ?, considering that only the bills for my flat cost that much)
- He is working for a sales company abroad (I belive in the UK or Republic of Ireland) or is partly an owner of that company. Most of his business he does on line. I am not aware of his monthly income.
- I have got a new job as microbiologist 2 weeks ago with a trial period of 3 months and monthly income of 260 euros.
Question:
Can he decrease the child support amount? Can I claim child support in Britain for our daughter in that case?
Thankyou in advance!
Best regards,
Calm and happy mum ?
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