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How Much Will I Have To Pay?

By: Lorna Elliott LLB (hons), Barrister - Updated: 24 Apr 2018 |
 
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Child maintenance is financial support that helps towards your child's everyday living expenses and is paid on a regular basis. The parent that pays child maintenance is the non-resident parent i.e. the one who does not live with the child or have day-to-day care for the child. Child maintenance is paid to the parent the child lives with (the resident parent). In some cases, this may not be a parent, such as a grandparent or guardian with full care.

Why pay maintenance?

Paying maintenance for your child is extremely important. The person with full care of your child will no doubt be doing their best, however, the extra money that you pay can help to give your children a more stable and better quality upbringing. Maintenance payments will generally go towards food, clothes, school trips, books, toys and games, toiletries, medicines, childcare, activities, etc.

How much to pay?

The amount of child maintenance that you have to pay as a non-resident parent depends on a number of factors such as income, the number of children living with you and the number of children you have, whether you are the resident parent, are in receipt of benefits and whether or not the child also stays with you sometimes.

Types of maintenance arrangement

There are two main ways to arrange child maintenance:
  • Family-based arrangement
  • Child Support Agency (CSA) or Child Maintenance Service (CMS)

If you are on good terms with the resident parent, it may be that you can come to some arrangement about how much you pay and how often.

The alternative and most popular option is to pay maintenance through the CSA and CMS.

How is child maintenance calculated?

The CSA and CMS calculates maintenance, whilst taking into account several factors which includes net weekly income (CSA), gross weekly income (CMS).

The four rates applied to the non-resident parent's net weekly income include:

  • basic rate
  • reduced rate
  • flat rate
  • nil rate

Basic rate

Any new claims are now organised through the CMS. Between 2014 and 2017 the Child Support Agency (CSA) will contact all existing clients to end their current child maintenance arrangements to put in place a new arrangement.

The following information is based on existing calculations made via the CSA. For new claims via the CMS, you can contact the CMS directly on 0800 0835 130.

Reduced rate

If the non-resident parent earns between £100 and £200 per week, they will pay a flat rate plus a percentage of their weekly income. This will vary depending on how many children they have that require maintenance. The flat rate is £5 per week, plus 25% of their income for one child, 35% of their income for two children, and 45% of their income for three or more children.

Flat rate

If the non-resident parent earns between £5 and £100 per week, they will pay a flat rate of £5 per week. This includes people who are on state benefits, Job Seeker's Allowance, Incapacity Benefit, Bereavement Allowance, Income Support, State Pensions and certain other benefits. This rate will be the same regardless of how many children they have. In the case of state benefits, the child maintenance is usually deducted at source.

Nil rate

If the non-resident parent earns less than £5 per week, for example if they are a full time student, are under 16 years old, in prison, 18 or under in further education (no higher than A level) or are in a care home, the nil rate will apply. This means that they will not be required to pay anything.

What if a parent has other children?

If a resident parent has children with several different non-resident parents, the CSA will make these calculations separately. For example, if a woman has two children by one father and one by another man, the men will only pay for their own children respectively. Similarly, if a non-resident parent is paying money to several children in different households, the CSA will generally divide the money equally between the children.

If the non-resident parent has some CSA arrangements and some Family-Arrangement maintenance then unfortunately, the CSA cannot take into account the Family-Arrangement maintenance paid. It can, however, take into account any court orders in relation to maintenance.

What happens if the child stays overnight with both parents?

If the child stays overnight with the non-resident parent at least 52 nights a year i.e. on average at least one night a week then both parents have "shared care".

In the case of the basic and reduced rates, the amount of child maintenance that the non-resident parent has to pay is reduced in equal proportion to time the child stays with them. For example, if a parent is to pay £35 per week in maintenance but the child stays with the resident parent for 2 out of 7 nights per week, that £35 will be split into sevenths i.e. £35 divided by 7 nights x 5 nights that the child lives with the resident parent = £25. This is in addition to the flat rate of £5 which is always to be paid.

For the flat and nil rates, the amount to pay is nil.

What happens if the parent with care claims benefits?

Previously if the resident parent was claiming child maintenance, they were not always able to claim in full for benefits . However, since April 2010, benefits will not be affected by the amount of child maintenance received.

What happens if the non-resident parent is self-employed?

Calculations are made in the same way for self-employed non-resident parents as those who are employed. The CSA does have to calculate the earnings differently by working out the average weekly earnings for the past tax year. If this cannot be done, i.e. the business has not been up and running for a full year, then the CSA will use the gross income of the business to date. Reasonable business expenses and VAT are then deducted to obtain a weekly income figure, which is used to determine which rate of child maintenance should be paid.

What happens if the non-resident parent refuses to give their financial information to the CSA?

If a non-resident parent refuses to give information and it cannot be obtained from other sources, then a "default maintenance decision" is applied. This is a default rate which is as follows:

  • £30 a week for one child
  • £40 a week for 2 children
  • £50 a week for 3 or more children

The non-resident parent must pay from the date that the default maintenance decision was applied.

Other Factors

The CSA can also consider other elements before making a determination on maintenance payments. These can include fees for boarding school, special expenses that the non-resident parent pays for disabled children who live with them, mortgage payments for a property in which the parent with care and the child/children live (as long as the non-resident no longer has a legal interest in it) or loan payments for a loan taken out for the family's benefit while the non-resident parent was still living with the parent with care and the child/children.

Challenging the Decision

If you are not paying child support or have an application against you can find out if you have to pay child support. It is possible to ask the CSA to review a decision on maintenance payments.

Do you have to notify the CSA of changes to your circumstances?

The answer is yes. If you have a change in circumstances, you must notify the CSA/CMS immediately. If you are paying less than you should be then your child could suffer. Additionally, if the CSA/CMS finds out, you may have to make up for what you should have been paying. More positively, you could be paying too much and the figure needs to be lowered. You must also keep the CSA informed of any change of address.

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Hal - Your Question:
Hi. Am I right in thinking. The csa (or new one) do not take childcare costs into consideration when factoring how much maintenance is paid? For example one parent who has same age child=same outgoings for childs daily costs woukd get the exact same amount as someone above who had a childcare bill of e.g900-1000 + and the ex parners also earned the same

Our Response:
Child maintenance is based solely on the gross income of the paying parent. You can see how child maintenance is calculated via the link here .
ChildSupportLaws - 26-Apr-18 @ 12:48 PM
Hi. Am I right in thinking. The csa (or new one) do not take childcare costs into consideration when factoring how much maintenance is paid? For example one parent who has same age child=same outgoings for childs daily costs woukd get the exact same amount as someone above who had a childcare bill of e.g 900-1000 + and the ex parners also earned the same
Hal - 24-Apr-18 @ 8:24 PM
@MM under the CSA net income scheme, the percentage of income paid was 15% for one qualifying child. Under the new gross income scheme it is 12%. Under the previous scheme many men (and women) were trying to avoid paying by putting money into pensions etc in order to bring down their net earnings and so they would pay less child maintenance. The gross income scheme was put in place to be more transperent and fair to try to prevent this happening. Some paying parents are actually better off. So if you want to blame it on anyone you can blame it on the fault of the people who were trying to get out of supporting their kids... not CSA.
JillN - 9-Apr-18 @ 3:36 PM
I have been paying CSA for a number of years and have just been notified by this new CMA department that my payments will now go up by 40.59%. I’ve just queried this and its apparently because the CMA’s calculation is a percentage of your taxable gross, how can this be legal? They’re ignoring income tax and NIC so calculating payments based on income that I don’t even get and which is much higher. How ican the government do this and can I legally challenge this?
MM - 7-Apr-18 @ 1:08 PM
Dibz - Your Question:
I have just split with my partner. We have two children but one is at college and starts uni this September. One child will be staying with him 2 nights a week. He earns approximately £30000 a year. How much will he have to pay. Also he says he doesn't have to pay any money to me he can put it in the children's bank accounts is this right as I thought the money was supposed to help with everyday living cost

Our Response:
If you will be classed as the primary carer of your child, you can work out the amount of child maintenance he will pay via the link here .
ChildSupportLaws - 27-Mar-18 @ 2:42 PM
I have just split with my partner. We have two children but one is at college and starts uni this September. One child will be staying with him 2 nights a week. He earns approximately £30000 a year. How much will he have to pay. Also he says he doesn't have to pay any money to me he can put it in the children's bank accounts is this right as I thought the money was supposed to help with everyday living cost
Dibz - 23-Mar-18 @ 7:22 PM
Dave - Your Question:
I am in the same position as lee :Lee Lee's Question:Divorced 5 years ago and ex wife has dragged me through the mud for reasons that she still doesn't explain. I put it down to some post natal change after our second child was born. Either way she earns three to four times wages I do. I'm on the bare minimum after having a mental crash and my business suffering. And constant abuse from my ex even after she moved cities. Which means I have to pay X amount to travel to pick up and drop them off as she refuses to drop them or meet half way. My main query is if she is earning three or four times more thane. How can it be justified that she claims off me ?? It's leadinge into further depression with her on sided demands and all the hard work I put into my business over 12 years I fear will go down the drain. Because I can't afford to keep up payments. She doesn't ' need ' she is being unreasonable spiteful and she constantly changes the goal posts when I can have the kids. If that wasn't bad enough arranged times at the strain station she hasn't turned up so I've wasted my money because she can't communicate properly. I'm so down with it all. Surely means testing should work both ways. How many men have been seriously affected by this situation I wonder. 100s of thousands I imagineI appreciate you responded to Lee's question but I feel it was answered. Can you explain in more detail please.

Our Response:
By law, every non-resident parent is responsible for paying towards the financial day-to-day care of their child/children. This is regardless of what the other parent earns. Child access and child maintenance are not connected. Child maintenance has to be paid regardless of whether the parent sees the child or not. If the person is having issues with access, then mediation and/or the court is there to resolve such issues. Likewise, if a non-resident parent is not eligible to pay child maintenance i.e because they are out of work, this does not mean the resident parent can use this as an excuse to restrict access. Non-resident parents are assessed on their income and the amount they would contribute financially to the child's welfare if they were still living under the same roof. It would be deemed unfair to expect just one parent to have to pay for all the day-to-day care of their child.
ChildSupportLaws - 13-Mar-18 @ 2:42 PM
I am in the same position as lee :Lee Lee's Question: Divorced 5 years ago and ex wife has dragged me through the mud for reasons that she still doesn't explain. I put it down to some post natal change after our second child was born. Either way she earns three to four times wages I do. I'm on the bare minimum after having a mental crash and my business suffering. And constant abuse from my ex even after she moved cities. Which means I have to pay X amount to travel to pick up and drop them off as she refuses to drop them or meet half way. My main query is if she is earning three or four times more thane. How can it be justified that she claims off me ?? It's leadinge into further depression with her on sided demands and all the hard work I put into my business over 12 years I fear will go down the drain. Because I can't afford to keep up payments. She doesn't ' need ' she is being unreasonable spiteful and she constantly changes the goal posts when I can have the kids. If that wasn't bad enough arranged times at the strain station she hasn't turned up so I've wasted my money because she can't communicate properly. I'm so down with it all. Surely means testing should work both ways. How many men have been seriously affected by this situation I wonder. 100s of thousands I imagine I appreciate you responded to Lee's question but I feel it was answered. Can you explain in more detail please.
Dave - 12-Mar-18 @ 10:23 PM
George - Your Question:
My partner may have a 4 year old daughter with an ex partner. He payed an agreed amount for 2 years until she stopped access, he is unsure if the child is his and therefore stopped paying the maintenance about a year ago. During that time his x partner has ignored all his attempts at making contact. The CSA have recently wrote to his employer reqesting a payment of £800 per month to be deducted from his wages. Obviously my partner cant afford to pay this, and is reluctant to pay any further maintenance at all as he is unsure if the child is his. Please advise how to proceed in this situation.

Our Response:
Your partner cannot refuse to pay child maintenance where he has been named as the father. If he wishes to stop paying child maintenance (because he feels he is not the father), then he firstly has to prove he is not, please see link here.
ChildSupportLaws - 8-Mar-18 @ 12:59 PM
My partner may have a 4 year old daughter with an ex partner. He payed an agreed amount for 2 years until she stopped access, he is unsure if the child is his and therefore stopped paying the maintenance about a year ago. During that time his x partner has ignored all his attempts at making contact. The CSA have recently wrote to his employer reqesting a payment of £800 per month to be deducted from his wages. Obviously my partner cant afford to pay this, and is reluctant to pay any further maintenance at all as he is unsure if the child is his. Please advise how to proceed in this situation.
George - 7-Mar-18 @ 9:24 PM
Jon - Your Question:
I am nrp with one daughter. the RP has taken my daughter to Dubai. I was supposed to see her at major holidays such as Easter, but even that option has now been declined by RP. Do I still have to pay CM?

Our Response:
Every NRP by law has to pay child maintenance. However, not all countries have reciprocal child maintenance orders. The link here shows a list of countries where parents can apply to enforce or change a child maintenance decision made in UK courts.
ChildSupportLaws - 2-Mar-18 @ 9:59 AM
I am nrp with one daughter. the RP has taken my daughter to Dubai. I was supposed to see her at major holidays such as Easter, but even that option has now been declined by RP. Do I still have to pay CM?
Jon - 1-Mar-18 @ 4:45 PM
Lee - Your Question:
Divorced 5 years ago and ex wife has dragged me through the mud for reasons that she still doesn't explain. I put it down to some post natal change after our second child was born. Either way she earns three to four times wages I do. I'm on the bare minimum after having a mental crash and my business suffering. And constant abuse from my ex even after she moved cities. Which means I have to pay X amount to travel to pick up and drop them off as she refuses to drop them or meet half way. My main query is if she is earning three or four times more thane. How can it be justified that she claims off me ?? It's leadinge into further depression with her on sided demands and all the hard work I put into my business over 12 years I fear will go down the drain. Because I can't afford to keep up payments. She doesn't ' need ' she is being unreasonable spiteful and she constantly changes the goal posts when I can have the kids. If that wasn't bad enough arranged times at the strain station she hasn't turned up so I've wasted my money because she can't communicate properly. I'm so down with it all. Surely means testing should work both ways. How many men have been seriously affected by this situation I wonder. 100s of thousands I imagine.

Our Response:
Every biological non-resident parent by law has to contribute towards the financial care of their child, regardless of what the other parent is earning. How the paying parent is assessed regarding the amounts they should pay can be seen via the link here .
ChildSupportLaws - 22-Feb-18 @ 2:12 PM
Divorced 5 years ago and ex wife has dragged me through the mud for reasons that she still doesn't explain. I put it down to some post natal change after our second child was born. Either way she earns three to four times wages I do. I'm on the bare minimum after having a mental crash and my business suffering. And constant abuse from my ex even after she moved cities. Which means I have to pay X amount to travel to pick up and drop them off as she refuses to drop them or meet half way. My main query is if she is earning three or four times more thane. How can it be justified that she claims off me ?? It's leadinge into further depression with her on sided demands and all the hard work i put into my business over 12 years I fear will go down the drain. Because I can't afford to keep up payments. She doesn't ' need ' she is being unreasonable spiteful and she constantly changes the goal posts when I can have the kids. If that wasn't bad enough arranged times at the strain station she hasn't turned up so I've wasted my money because she can't communicate properly. I'm so down with it all. Surely means testing should work both ways. How many men have been seriously affected by this situation I wonder. 100s of thousands I imagine ..
Lee - 20-Feb-18 @ 2:28 PM
My partner just got informed he must pay back child maintenance money 5 months back for a child that may be his (woman run away with a newborn calming that child is someone's else). Before that 5 months someone else was paying money till proved that he is not a father. It doesn't sound right, how can you pay for a child you don't know you have. I also read somewhere that CSA/CMS can start enforcing payments from the application date so I don't understand where that 5 months back is coming from.. or if she submitted the form why he wasn't contacted earlier. We are planning family of our own, we just started renovation of an old place to have family, we don't have money to pay anything back. He is also paying for a 'know' child, how is it calculated when two children are from different mothers.. is it 2x15% or 20% divided by two.. I really appreciate help as my world just has been shaken.
Aggie - 16-Feb-18 @ 6:01 PM
Caz - Your Question:
My wife and I split up in November 2016 and divorced in August 2017. We have 2 children and she lives in rented accommodation and receives housing benefits etc etc. Since November I have been paying her £1k a month, when my wages were good. Now my wages have dipped the £1k is now 50% of my monthly pay and I can’t afford it. I have a girlfriend and we are looking at moving in but I believe if I stop or reduce this payment she willl stop me seeing the kids. I think £1000 is way too much and I may have been a bit naive in paying this amount for so long

Our Response:
You can see how much you should be paying via the link here . Therefore, if your ex decided to go through CMS, then CMS will calculate what you should be paying based on your previous year's income. Child maintenance and child access are two different issues. If your ex stops access, you would have to suggest mediation to your ex as a way of trying to resolve the issues that you have. If she refuses, you would have to apply to court.
ChildSupportLaws - 16-Feb-18 @ 2:16 PM
My wife and I split up in November 2016 and divorced in August 2017. We have 2 children and she lives in rented accommodation and receives housing benefits etc etc. Since November I have been paying her £1k a month, when my wages were good. Now my wages have dipped the £1k is now 50% of my monthly pay and I can’t afford it. I have a girlfriend and we are looking at moving in but I believe if I stop or reduce this payment she willl stop me seeing the kids. I think £1000 is way too much and I may have been a bit naive in paying this amount for so long
Caz - 16-Feb-18 @ 8:00 AM
Rob - Your Question:
Hi there,I have been separated with my ex for over 2 and a half years our agreement together was me to pay £150 maintenance each month that I have done and never missed it. Now am getting threatened with she wants £350 a month of contacting the csa. Where do I stand. I have proof of my money going in every month also I have my son as often as I can but she limits this so she can call csa for more money. What are my rights I want my son at least 3 times a week if not more.

Our Response:
The child maintenance calculator, link here, gives a good benchmark of what you should be paying. CMS prefers parents to make their own family-based arrangement based on the calculator, so as not to have to go through its administration charges etc. If you are paying below the amount in a family-based arrangement, then it stands to reason that your ex may wish to claim more. However, if you think your ex is withholding access in order to claim more money, then you have to option to discuss this with her mutually, via a solicitor, via mediation, or take the matter to court. A court will not allow your ex to withhold access to gain more money and if you have had regular access to date, then it's likely a court will allow your access to continue as previously arranged. The main objective here is for both parties to be fair and to come to an arrangement that suits you both. Remember though, child maintenance and child access are two completely different issues and are dealt with separately. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
ChildSupportLaws - 15-Feb-18 @ 12:58 PM
Nick - Your Question:
My ex (although never married) has my child's childcare responsibilities and we had an agreement for maintenance based on on-line calcs using my salary that was agreeable to both. Since then my child has decided she does not want to spend time with me (not sure if ex was influencing this) and so she is with my ex 100% of time. My ex now wants maintenance payments to increase to reflect this and she is threatening action if I do not co-operate.My ex lives in a house that I have a significant stake in and the property is mortgage free although I still have a large mortgage on the property I live in. The current rules do not seem to consider that I am subsidizing my ex's living expenses because she does not have a mortgage despite her re-marrying and living there with the new family and my child. Can I use this 'subsidy' to offset some of the maintenance payments demanded by my ex? Please advise - Thanks

Our Response:
CMS calculate child maintenance based upon a non-resident parent's taxable income only. If you wish to take the matter further, you would have to suggest mediation to your ex, or if she refuses, seek legal advice to see whether you have a case to resolve the matter through the courts.
ChildSupportLaws - 15-Feb-18 @ 11:31 AM
My ex (although never married) has my child's childcare responsibilities and we had an agreement for maintenance based on on-line calcs using my salary that was agreeable to both. Since then my child has decided she does not want to spend time with me (not sure if ex was influencing this) and so she is with my ex 100% of time. My ex now wants maintenance payments to increase to reflect this and she is threatening action if I do not co-operate. My ex lives in a house that I have a significant stake in and the property is mortgage free although I still have a large mortgage on the property I live in. The current rules do not seem to consider that I am subsidizing my ex's living expenses because she does not have a mortgage despite her re-marrying and living there with the new family and my child. Can I use this 'subsidy' to offset some of the maintenance payments demanded by my ex? Please advise - Thanks
Nick - 14-Feb-18 @ 12:04 PM
Hi there, I have been separated with my ex for over 2 and a half years our agreement together was me to pay £150 maintenance each month that I have done and never missed it.Now am getting threatened with she wants £350 a month of contacting the csa.Where do I stand.I have proof of my money going in every month also I have my son as often as I can but she limits this so she can call csa for more money.What are my rights I want my son at least 3 times a week if not more.
Rob - 13-Feb-18 @ 8:20 PM
Dee - Your Question:
I have separated from my ex for 7years he never paid any maintenance. I never ask cms to get involved for him to pay. Can the money be backdated if I go through cms now.

Our Response:
No, you cannot claim child maintenance to be backdated if you have never previously registered the claim. Child maintenance payments only start from the date of the application.
ChildSupportLaws - 12-Feb-18 @ 12:37 PM
I have separated from my ex for 7years he never paid any maintenance. I never ask cms to get involved for him to pay. Can the money be backdated if I go through cms now.
Dee - 10-Feb-18 @ 10:43 PM
I have 3 boys by my ex partner which I pay £43.74 a week, ihave met someone else and she would like to have a child of her own, I'm not sure how this will work out if I already pay maintenance for my other children. Hope to hear fro you soon Would I need to pay maintenance for my other child
drake - 27-Jan-18 @ 10:29 PM
MW - Your Question:
Hi I'm going through a separation and my ex is being difficult regarding many. He already had an agreement with his 1st child's mother. That was originally via the csa but due to the new fees they decided to come to a mural arrangement. In enquiring how would it work out for me and mybson as it's looks like this is gonna have to go via csa for us. What would the maintenance entitlement be?

Our Response:
In addition to the information in the article, please see the CMS link here, which should help you further. As will the link here , which is equally as informative.
ChildSupportLaws - 26-Jan-18 @ 3:27 PM
Hi I'm going through a separation and my ex is being difficult regarding many. He already had an agreement with his 1st child's mother. That was originally via the csa but due to the new fees they decided to come to a mural arrangement. In enquiring how would it work out for me and mybson as it's looks like this is gonna have to go via csa for us. What would the maintenance entitlement be?
MW - 26-Jan-18 @ 8:06 AM
Meeeee - Your Question:
My partner pays the correct amount for his child. His ex only lets him see her 3 to 5 hour per week despite him asking for more contact. She says his csa payments will be increased soon but I dont see this as fair as he wants more contact but she says theyre going shoppin n all other excuses. She wont let her stay over night. My question is if the paying parent doesnt have the child over night is there a certain amount of hours per week he could have her to be classed as joint parenting?

Our Response:
Child maintenance and child access are not connected. If your partner wishes to see his child more often, then he would have to either suggest mediation as a way of resolving this issue between them, if his ex refuses, then he would have to apply to court. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. Once a court order is in place, his ex would have to keep to it. Therefore, he may wish to seek some legal advice if he wishes to take the matter further. You can see more regarding mediation via the link here.
ChildSupportLaws - 19-Jan-18 @ 12:30 PM
My partner pays the correct amount for his child. His ex only lets him see her 3 to 5 hour per week despite him asking for more contact. She says his csa payments will be increased soon but i dont see this as fair as he wants more contact but she says theyre going shoppin n all other excuses. She wont let her stay over night. My question is if the paying parent doesnt have the child over night is there a certain amount of hours per week he could have her to be classed as joint parenting?
Meeeee - 18-Jan-18 @ 5:33 PM
Div - Your Question:
Hi there, I haven't seen my son in about two months because I don't stay with the mother, and she just uses him against me, when I upset her. I guess I don't want to go to court or a lawyer, because I know in time I will get to see my son. I make £700 per month. 400 a month from college plus, my part time job varies from 100 a month-300 a month. Over all I make about 700. How much am I legally obliged to pay?

Our Response:
You would only pay child maintenance based on the amount of 'taxable' income you earn. You can see how much you would have to pay via the CMS link here.
ChildSupportLaws - 18-Jan-18 @ 3:48 PM
Tully - Your Question:
My girlfriend and I have 2 children and are separating. What is my obligation towards finance and also with regards housing. We would have equal care. Everything is amicable, which is great for the kids.

Our Response:
You can calculate how much you are likely to pay via the CMS link here. You can also see more via the CAB link here , which should help answer your question.
ChildSupportLaws - 18-Jan-18 @ 3:05 PM
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